compete in women's sports.

I was having this discussion with someone on another forum. He said that once a trans woman athlete has started hormone therapy (that either mimics female hormones or otherwise suppresses testosterone) for a period of time, all the physical and physiological advantages that "she" has had over cis-females will be gone. Apparently, according to him, estrogen has a "weakening" effect on a person's body. But to me, if a trans woman's physiology is sufficiently weakened by estrogen, wouldn't a cis woman's be weakened even further, because the latter has had estrogen in her body for longer than the former?

And this doesn't even take into account things that are structural, things that cannot be undone by hormone replacement. Such as having a bigger heart, being of greater height, having greater lung capacity..etc and many more. All of these things are barely altered by simply placing the body on hormone therapy.

Apparently, some people think it's bad to exclude trans women from participating in women's sports. They want sports to be inclusive and open to all. However, I feel that this can result in unfairness to cis women. We make two teams, one for men and the other for women, for a reason. It's because we recognize that it's not fair to make women compete against biological men.

Anyway I would like your thoughts.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Mar 30 2022 07:23pm

I think the women's sports thing is just a way for right wingers to pussyfoot around the issue. Like, if we fool women into thinking this is important, maybe they'll vote better next time. (Delusional)

Frankly, I don't care about women's sports. Trans people having this much privilege and coddling is wrong and gross. Bring forced to call that swimmer dude a woman completely out of political pressure is stupid and I don't want to do it. It's an affront to God. That's all we really need to say.

Nope.

But a lot of people don't think females should have a say over who has access to female spaces or who controls female bodies.

In most areas of civil life it is okay, but in competitive sports I believe the sports should be divided by the (primary) sexes and not by gender.



But affront to god is a personal belief and we're protected from legislation coming from a place of religion.

Need real world reasons not weird metaphysical reasons that are projections of your own belief system deified.

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 30 2022 07:29pm

Are you talking about Lia Thomas? Yea, I have to agree. "She" looks like a dude to me. In fact I would say "she" is quite a handsome dude.

men and women must compete in same pool to crush their ambition and get them back in the kitchen

Well there is a reason there are sports, and there are women's sports.

nice

but on a serious note, from what i remember from school, some stuff simply cant be changed if someone changes sex.. the whole biomechanics is different for example women have physiological x legs and elbows compared to men, different hip angle, that isnt really something that can be changed once the skeleton is formed i mean sure, a woman might tear an acl due to lack of active stabilization (weaker muscles), but she also might tear it due to greater strain on it due to knee angle

and i couldnt with a clear conscience say to a woman "well, you see that creature over there? the reason it runs faster and never gets injured is definitely due to you not training hard enough and not to it having a completely different bone mechanics"

Yes so more people see the logical outcomes of the left's degenerate tendencies. Let these weirdos go on so waves of women ultimately reject these trash ideologies.

This actually makes perfect sense. Why didn't I see it this way?

Womens sports are not meant for failed male athletes.

Men should go against men
Women should go against women