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Mar 11 2022 07:41am
It is one of the arguments of the Russians since the invasion of Ukraine: "NATO have betrayed Russia by violating its promise not to expand east."

Vladimir Putin himself has stated on February 1: "We had received promises that NATO would not move" not an inch "its infrastructure east, and that is well known."

This recurring accusation from the Russian President was denied by the specialists. There was no formal treaty guaranteeing the USSR that NATO will not expand

On the other hand, [Fra international relation specialist A.Zima] "There were discussions in February 1990 between the Secretary of State of the United States, James Baker and Mikhail Gorbachev, including the Statute of Reunited Germany." According to a declassified American memorandum, James Baker said, "If we maintain a presence in an Germany, which is part of NATO, there will be no extension of the jurisdiction of NATO and the forces of the NATO an inch east ".[COLOR=red But at the time, negotiations only focused on East Germany[/COLOR].


The issue of further enlargement east of NATO was not even imaginable, while the Eastern European countries were still part of the Warsaw Covenant that will only be dissolved in July 1991.
If promises have been made unilaterally during the discussions, no agreement has never been proposed or signed at the NATO level on this subject.
After the Democratic Republic of Germany in October 1990, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland had joined the organization in 1999.

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Just to fix up USSR & tsars/authoritarians lovers.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 11 2022 07:46am
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Mar 11 2022 07:53am
Start paying attention french clown

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Mar 11 2022 07:53am
Say no to NATO.

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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 11 2022 07:53am)
Start paying attention french clown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-alxZvUCS8


A shanty town invader =/= French.

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Mar 11 2022 07:58am
Quote (sirthom @ Mar 11 2022 02:55pm)
A shanty town invader =/= French.

Am I a doctor because I'm in a hospital?


This troll is posting from a Paris banlieu, one of those crime ridden neighborhoods where they enjoy putting cars on fire.
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Mar 11 2022 08:25am
Why does it matter who promised what?
The fact is NATO expanded to the east, right up to Russia's front door, and that's what provoked them.
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Mar 11 2022 08:31am
Y'all acting like NATO annexed all these Eastern European nations, when they're the ones who asked to join. I mean, decades under the rule of the Iron Curtain, and when they finally get out from under that, they look to the West for security?

Perish the fucking thought.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 11 2022 03:25pm)
Why does it matter who promised what?
The fact is NATO expanded to the east, right up to Russia's front door, and that's what provoked them.


Exactly
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 11 Mar 2022 15:41)
It is one of the arguments of the Russians since the invasion of Ukraine: "NATO have betrayed Russia by violating its promise not to expand east."

Vladimir Putin himself has stated on February 1: "We had received promises that NATO would not move" not an inch "its infrastructure east, and that is well known."

This recurring accusation from the Russian President was denied by the specialists. There was no formal treaty guaranteeing the USSR that NATO will not expand

On the other hand, [Fra international relation specialist A.Zima] "There were discussions in February 1990 between the Secretary of State of the United States, James Baker and Mikhail Gorbachev, including the Statute of Reunited Germany." According to a declassified American memorandum, James Baker said, "If we maintain a presence in an Germany, which is part of NATO, there will be no extension of the jurisdiction of NATO and the forces of the NATO an inch east ".[COLOR=red But at the time, negotiations only focused on East Germany[/COLOR].


The issue of further enlargement east of NATO was not even imaginable, while the Eastern European countries were still part of the Warsaw Covenant that will only be dissolved in July 1991.
If promises have been made unilaterally during the discussions, no agreement has never been proposed or signed at the NATO level on this subject.
After the Democratic Republic of Germany in October 1990, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland had joined the organization in 1999.

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Just to fix up USSR & tsars/authoritarians lovers.


thanks for clearing that up to all of us, much anticipated.

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