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Feb 20 2022 05:22pm
Yesterday Antifa in Portland held one of their normal armed terrorist meetups, ostensibly a direction action in support of Amir Locke

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=402187
https://thepostmillennial.com/1-dead-5-injured-after-mass-shooting-at-portland-antifa-gathering
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/02/20/portland-oregon-shooting/

The major outlets and local reporting are of course sanitizing the fact that it was a known Antifa rally, but what we know so far is that Antifa got in a shootout with a local homeowner. The details are scant, and Antifa are naturally refusing to cooperate and destroying evidence, and even swarmed the police spokesman when he tried to give an update on the shooting investigation today, screaming about Andy Ngo and trying to blame him.
Its still an incredibly unclear situation. What we know is that 1 female was killed and 5 people were injured, and a shootout occurred between an armed homeowner and a group of Antifa rallying that night, and two people are in custody. We don't know who shot first, we don't know who died, we don't know who is in custody, we don't know. The Oregonian, which is regularly written by Antifa sympathizers talking to Antifa sources, wrote that an unnamed source with direct knowledge of the event told them the homeowner shot first and Antifa returned fire. Which is of course, completely untrustworthy. The police however, as they covered, have stated:

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“... (A) number of witnesses were uncooperative with responding officers,” police said in the statement. “Most people on scene left without talking to police. Detectives believe a large number of people either witnessed what happened, or recorded the incident as it unfolded. This is a very complicated incident, and investigators are trying to put this puzzle together without having all the pieces.”

A press conference where police officials planned to address the shooting and a separate fatal shooting by police that also took place Saturday was disrupted by an estimated 50 demonstrators about two minutes after it began at 11 a.m. Sunday.

Portland Police Lt. Nathan Sheppard stood by silently as protesters began to speak to the media gathered outside the front doors of the downtown Central Precinct. He eventually got into an unmarked car and drove off, trailed by shouts and heckles.


So, what happened? Who shot first? Odds are, we'll never actually know. At a minimum we might find out who the homeowner is, and whether the homeowner was killed or an Antifa militant was killed. The way Antifa sounded at the press conference it sure sounds like it was one of theirs. So if the homeowner is alive and injured, likely in custody, we might actually hear what the hell happened. No reason to distrust their account any more than a normal involved party in these kinds of shootings, unlike Antifa who we know will lie about everything even if they were the victims. I mean, their first reaction was to blame Andy Ngo and claim that this was a white supremacist hitman who flew their on Andy Ngo's orders, lmao.
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Feb 20 2022 05:30pm
and nothing of value has been lost
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Feb 20 2022 05:34pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Feb 20 2022 05:30pm)
and nothing of value has been lost


We can't really know at this point. For all we know, a local homeowner was terrorized and murdered by Antifa. Or perhaps a homeowner rightfully defended their family against Antifa swarming their property and will now be terrorized by Portland prosecutors who sympathize with Antifa.
We know very little and the rest is speculation

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I'm pretty darn sure the person killed was one of the Antifa though. They posted a GoFundMe a few hours ago;

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These funds will be used to cover legal, medical, and funeral expenses amongst other bills for our wounded comrades. Please donate and help us easy this burden for them as they have done for so many of us through their dedication to defending our community and putting their lives on the line to do so. We have our backs they certainly have had ours please help us have theirs.


This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 20 2022 05:41pm
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Feb 20 2022 05:49pm
any dead antifa is great news.

also portland, lol.
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Feb 20 2022 05:55pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 20 2022 06:22pm)
Yesterday Antifa in Portland held one of their normal armed terrorist meetups, ostensibly a direction action in support of Amir Locke

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=402187
https://thepostmillennial.com/1-dead-5-injured-after-mass-shooting-at-portland-antifa-gathering
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/02/20/portland-oregon-shooting/

The major outlets and local reporting are of course sanitizing the fact that it was a known Antifa rally, but what we know so far is that Antifa got in a shootout with a local homeowner. The details are scant, and Antifa are naturally refusing to cooperate and destroying evidence, and even swarmed the police spokesman when he tried to give an update on the shooting investigation today, screaming about Andy Ngo and trying to blame him.
Its still an incredibly unclear situation. What we know is that 1 female was killed and 5 people were injured, and a shootout occurred between an armed homeowner and a group of Antifa rallying that night, and two people are in custody. We don't know who shot first, we don't know who died, we don't know who is in custody, we don't know. The Oregonian, which is regularly written by Antifa sympathizers talking to Antifa sources, wrote that an unnamed source with direct knowledge of the event told them the homeowner shot first and Antifa returned fire. Which is of course, completely untrustworthy. The police however, as they covered, have stated:



So, what happened? Who shot first? Odds are, we'll never actually know. At a minimum we might find out who the homeowner is, and whether the homeowner was killed or an Antifa militant was killed. The way Antifa sounded at the press conference it sure sounds like it was one of theirs. So if the homeowner is alive and injured, likely in custody, we might actually hear what the hell happened. No reason to distrust their account any more than a normal involved party in these kinds of shootings, unlike Antifa who we know will lie about everything even if they were the victims. I mean, their first reaction was to blame Andy Ngo and claim that this was a white supremacist hitman who flew their on Andy Ngo's orders, lmao.


Portland is plagued with Antifa

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Feb 20 2022 05:59pm
Wow, the anti-fascists sure are doing a great job fighting fascism by getting into unnecessary gunfights with random civilians, and putting the lives of random innocent bystanders at risk from errant gunfire.

Truly an interesting way of "fighting fascism" - by provoking fights with completely random strangers that end in the deaths of your own members!

I'm sure they will totally learn some kind of lesson from this and realize that provoking unnecessary violence is always wrong - and they can't blame others for defending themselves from a violent mob.

I'm sure.
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Feb 20 2022 06:12pm
Sounds like some protestors got attacked by a Fox news zombies and tried to defend themselves using the 2nd amendment rights
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Feb 20 2022 06:16pm
I think good people should organize themselves and band together to fight antifa, using force, which is the only language they understand.

Fight fire with fire, as they say.
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Feb 20 2022 07:26pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Feb 20 2022 04:16pm)
I think good people should organize themselves and band together to fight antifa, using force, which is the only language they understand.

Fight fire with fire, as they say.


Well in the 1930s, there was a rash of kidnappings for ransom in the US. The police didn't do anything about it. So eventually people starting hiring the mafia to go after the kidnappers and kill them. That got the police to finally start taking it seriously. I could see something similar here. If the police refuse to clean up antifa, sooner or later, people will start hiring the mafia to hunt them down and kill them.
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Feb 20 2022 08:12pm
Quote (Kuggergug @ Feb 20 2022 05:26pm)
Well in the 1930s, there was a rash of kidnappings for ransom in the US. The police didn't do anything about it. So eventually people starting hiring the mafia to go after the kidnappers and kill them. That got the police to finally start taking it seriously. I could see something similar here. If the police refuse to clean up antifa, sooner or later, people will start hiring the mafia to hunt them down and kill them.


I don't want to openly endorse any illegal acts, however, I really think we should start organizing the anti-antifa.
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