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Jan 28 2022 07:52pm
https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1486689586533314564

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/27/irs-face-scans/

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IRS plan to scan your face prompts anger in Congress, confusion among taxpayers
Starting this summer, you’ll need to provide a video of your face to access the agency’s website. It’s a major expansion of the use of facial recognition software by the government.

Millions of Americans could soon have to scan their faces to access their Internal Revenue Service tax accounts, one of the government’s biggest expansions yet of facial recognition software into people’s everyday lives.

For now, taxpayers can still file their returns the old-fashioned way; the IRS began accepting returns for 2021 earnings on Monday, encouraging electronic filing.

But by this summer, anyone wanting to access their records — including details about child tax credits, payment plans or tax transcripts — on the IRS website could be required to record a video of their face with their computer or smartphone, and send it to the private contractor ID.me to confirm their identity.


The article goes on, but suffice it to say, there are major security concerns, privacy concerns, and the easy potential for the government to create a database to store peoples' faces for criminal apprehension reasons via mass surveillance.

The data is also stored and managed by a private company, so it doesn't have the same legal standards for how this data can be shared or used (or abused).

Is your privacy worth anything anymore?
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Jan 28 2022 07:56pm
Thats a hard hell no for me.
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Jan 28 2022 07:57pm
Facial recognition technology should be outright banned as the potential benefits are outweighed by the risks. Besides, I recall there being consistent issues in facial recognition technology when it comes to people of darker skin tones and that there's a significant rate of misidentification among non-white people.
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Jan 28 2022 07:58pm
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Facial recognition technology should be outright banned as the potential benefits are outweighed by the risks. Besides, I recall there being consistent issues in facial recognition technology when it comes to people of darker skin tones and that there's a significant rate of misidentification among non-white people.


Covered in the Twitter thread. Sometimes with false readings ratios of 10 or even 100 to 1 vs whites.
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Jan 28 2022 08:08pm
Quote (Santara @ Jan 28 2022 05:52pm)
https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1486689586533314564

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/27/irs-face-scans/



The article goes on, but suffice it to say, there are major security concerns, privacy concerns, and the easy potential for the government to create a database to store peoples' faces for criminal apprehension reasons via mass surveillance.

The data is also stored and managed by a private company, so it doesn't have the same legal standards for how this data can be shared or used (or abused).

Is your privacy worth anything anymore?


I think you've stumbled on the first bipartisan post I've seen in the last 6 months. I can't imagine anyone thinking this is a good idea.
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Jan 28 2022 08:10pm
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I think you've stumbled on the first bipartisan post I've seen in the last 6 months. I can't imagine anyone thinking this is a good idea.


Well, there's also the "banks must report all transactions greater than $600 so we can catch billionaires cheating on their taxes" bit.
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Jan 28 2022 08:12pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jan 28 2022 05:56pm)
Thats a hard hell no for me.
Shocked, I know.


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Jan 28 2022 08:18pm
Quote (Santara @ Jan 28 2022 05:52pm)
https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1486689586533314564

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/27/irs-face-scans/



The article goes on, but suffice it to say, there are major security concerns, privacy concerns, and the easy potential for the government to create a database to store peoples' faces for criminal apprehension reasons via mass surveillance.

The data is also stored and managed by a private company, so it doesn't have the same legal standards for how this data can be shared or used (or abused).

Is your privacy worth anything anymore?


Since it's being governed by a private company, I am wholeheartedly in support of this endeavor. Let the free market decide if this technology is appropriate, and how it should be appropriately used. If the people don't agree, I'm sure they'll simply vote through a different private enterprise.
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Jan 28 2022 08:20pm
Quote (ForwardLadderRoll @ Jan 28 2022 08:18pm)
Since it's being governed by a private company, I am wholeheartedly in support of this endeavor. Let the free market decide if this technology is appropriate, and how it should be appropriately used. If the people don't agree, I'm sure they'll simply vote through a different private enterprise.


There is no "free market" in tax collection.
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Jan 28 2022 08:23pm
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There is no "free market" in tax collection.


Who's collecting taxes? All I see is a private corporation stepping up and filling a market need.

Obviously, the IRS are demonic spawn the likes of which we'd MF for hours on end, in hopes of finding a Jah, but a company developing and deploying facial recognition software? That's just the market finding a buyer. Just because the buyer is an evil government entity doesn't mean the corporation is doing anything wrong--if the market didn't want them selling to the IRS, they should have made an exclusive counter-offer. Everything I see here is in accordance with the NAP.
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