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Oct 28 2021 09:16pm
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-in-talks-to-pay-hundreds-of-millions-to-immigrant-families-separated-at-border-11635447591?st=ywqtck2ftgow9fl&reflink=article_email_share
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/579011-biden-administration-considering-giving-450000-per-person

The Biden administration has laid out plans to move forward with a concrete form of reparations, payouts of nearly a million per family- $450,000 per person- to the families who were taken against their will by Americans. This comes in response to an ACLU lawsuit that proposed receiving damages for their capture and historical time spent under the American yoke. In addition to current policies that grant these families free healthcare, free behavioral health services, free boarding schools and recreational facilities, this damage class action settlement proposal would be a historic first payout to minority families who were oppressed by America. Initial proposals had the amount varying depending on circumstances and history, but would generally be $900,000 per family on average since most in the lawsuit represent multiple claimants, and at least 940 claims from families of minorities have already filed to receive their million dollar payouts.

The lawsuit filed by the ALCU cites the lasting psychological effects that an institutionalized system of oppression has had on minority families, including anxiety, a fear of strangers and nightmares. And it is President Biden himself who has declared this to be a moral stain upon our nation's fabric- a moral and national shame which must be remedied, giving wind to the calls for reparations.

What do you all think, has time come for reparations to be paid? Should families line up at the seat of federal government and demand their Bidenbucks be paid out, a million dollars each?
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Oct 29 2021 12:21am
Honestly that amout of money is nothing compared to estate wealth that could have been built. What's that equivalent a house in a metro city in the US these days. A million is nothing anymore.

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Quote (thundercock @ Oct 29 2021 03:39am)
Probably not, but throwing money at the problem is often the best solution. Can you imagine what would happen if every case went to trial and we didn't have pleas and settlements? It'd be an unmitigated disaster.

Damages obviously exist because these people had their children with them prior to entering the country so I don't think that's a valid argument. There were more humane ways to deal with the situation but the administration was intentionally cruel and extremely sloppy. Having said that, it probably doesn't matter because it's painfully difficult to win suits against the Feds. If there is a nonzero chance that a judge doesn't throw this out, the administration will have to defend it and that is probably WORSE from a politics standpoint.


The precedent is extremely clear that the US government cannot be held liable in civil court for enforcing the laws and carrying out executive policy. If the people elect a president on a policy platform and he delivers on that policy and that policy is held constitutional by the courts, the courts can't do an end-run around the checks and balances by holding the government liable for tort claims. If the DoJ didn't vigorously defend such baldly hollow legal threats and instead paid ransom every time there was a nonzero risk of it not getting thrown out, it would both encourage more people to seek paydays via frivolous civil suits as well as erode the constitutional powers of the legislature and executive.

I mean, if there's a law saying I can't sue my neighbor for being Jewish, and I go to court and sue my neighbor alleging he's a Jew and therefore owes me his Jew gold, well in a society anti-semitic enough you could plausibly get that to fly in court despite all the law saying I can't, somehow, some way. And after all, a jury of Derek Chauvin's peers listened to an autopsy present negative physical evidence of injury and every possible indicator of an overdose down to having recovered the partially digested pills George Floyd overdosed on, and he still got convicted on the modern day spectral evidence. I don't doubt that the odds are non-zero. I even understand how the Biden administration would be put into a bind by having the DoJ defend the legitimacy of the Trump administration's policies. Of course, in a sane world that wouldn't even be a question. In whackadoo world where everything is so hyperpartisan to the point of denying basic facts and logic, sure, they wouldn't defend Trump's right to breathe air.

Maybe this is just one more example of what we lose when politics goes off the deep end and a president is elected on hyperpartisanship
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Oct 29 2021 03:22am
only in a clownworld you can be a random illegal shitfuck, break the law of another country and then get paid
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Oct 29 2021 03:41am
Quote (SBD @ Oct 29 2021 12:21am)
Honestly that amout of money is nothing compared to estate wealth that could have been built. What's that equivalent a house in a metro city in the US these days. A million is nothing anymore.


I love your hilariously ludicrous assumption that these people would ever be capable of the kind of deferral of gratification and impulse control that it takes to manage finances successfully.

LMAO you got some jokes.
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Oct 29 2021 04:04am
Reparations have already been paid. Also no one today was a slave, nor was anyone today a slave owner.

This is begging.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 28 2021 11:16pm)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-in-talks-to-pay-hundreds-of-millions-to-immigrant-families-separated-at-border-11635447591?st=ywqtck2ftgow9fl&reflink=article_email_share
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/579011-biden-administration-considering-giving-450000-per-person

The Biden administration has laid out plans to move forward with a concrete form of reparations, payouts of nearly a million per family- $450,000 per person- to the families who were taken against their will by Americans. This comes in response to an ACLU lawsuit that proposed receiving damages for their capture and historical time spent under the American yoke. In addition to current policies that grant these families free healthcare, free behavioral health services, free boarding schools and recreational facilities, this damage class action settlement proposal would be a historic first payout to minority families who were oppressed by America. Initial proposals had the amount varying depending on circumstances and history, but would generally be $900,000 per family on average since most in the lawsuit represent multiple claimants, and at least 940 claims from families of minorities have already filed to receive their million dollar payouts.

The lawsuit filed by the ALCU cites the lasting psychological effects that an institutionalized system of oppression has had on minority families, including anxiety, a fear of strangers and nightmares. And it is President Biden himself who has declared this to be a moral stain upon our nation's fabric- a moral and national shame which must be remedied, giving wind to the calls for reparations.

What do you all think, has time come for reparations to be paid? Should families line up at the seat of federal government and demand their Bidenbucks be paid out, a million dollars each?


What about former indentured servants?

Basically anyone with the last name “Goad” or the like.
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Oct 29 2021 02:43pm
a million dollars per family is not enough
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Oct 29 2021 09:59pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 28 2021 08:16pm)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-administration-in-talks-to-pay-hundreds-of-millions-to-immigrant-families-separated-at-border-11635447591?st=ywqtck2ftgow9fl&reflink=article_email_share
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/579011-biden-administration-considering-giving-450000-per-person

The Biden administration has laid out plans to move forward with a concrete form of reparations, payouts of nearly a million per family- $450,000 per person- to the families who were taken against their will by Americans. This comes in response to an ACLU lawsuit that proposed receiving damages for their capture and historical time spent under the American yoke. In addition to current policies that grant these families free healthcare, free behavioral health services, free boarding schools and recreational facilities, this damage class action settlement proposal would be a historic first payout to minority families who were oppressed by America. Initial proposals had the amount varying depending on circumstances and history, but would generally be $900,000 per family on average since most in the lawsuit represent multiple claimants, and at least 940 claims from families of minorities have already filed to receive their million dollar payouts.

The lawsuit filed by the ALCU cites the lasting psychological effects that an institutionalized system of oppression has had on minority families, including anxiety, a fear of strangers and nightmares. And it is President Biden himself who has declared this to be a moral stain upon our nation's fabric- a moral and national shame which must be remedied, giving wind to the calls for reparations.

What do you all think, has time come for reparations to be paid? Should families line up at the seat of federal government and demand their Bidenbucks be paid out, a million dollars each?


the elites wont pay jack chit and will laugh their azzes off
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Oct 29 2021 10:31pm
Tricky situation. i don't think anybody disagrees about the absolute horror that the slaves went through but whether or not the same government that abolished the slavery is now also responsbile to their ancestors ancestors i find that argument a bit hard to believe. But maybe someone here can educate me
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