capitalism
socialism
communism

alot of users use these words here but id like to see what they mean to each of you

I won't bother giving you the google definitions, but here's the TLDR.

Capitalism is God.

Communism is dictatorial power used to claim control of the means of production in a way that is meant to be 'for the people.' This means that not even farmers can exist without having someone like Stalin micromanaging every aspect of their business and redistributing their resources as he sees fit. See example - Potato famine.

Socialism is just a more degenerate version of communism - it takes the power away from the dictator and gives it to the low IQ idiots he used to control. Because of this, it doesn't even bother to have a means of production and the people aren't motivated to work at all. This creates rampant inflation and ghettofication of any country stupid enough to adopt its practices.

This post was edited by LoverManGenius on Oct 24 2021 03:27pm

Capitalism - An economic system in which the means of production (factories, shares of companies, etc.) are held individually in the pursuit of personal profit. Decisions are made by the owners through hired officials such as CEOs and managers.

Socialism - An economic system in which the means of production are held by the workers of the institution and operated for a profit. I.e. a factory is owned by the workers of the factory, who all vote on hires, responsibilities, wages, etc.

Communism - An economic system in which the means of production are held collectively by the society in which they are located and are operated for the good of the community. While decision making can be organized in any way, it is typically organized with a central authority.



Private property (your xbox, your personal computer, your car) are all still owned by individuals under all three systems.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 24 2021 03:16pm

But in a lot of communist countries, the people are usually very poor and cannot afford properties like the ones you just listed.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 24 2021 03:28pm

I am a white English dictionary you can ask me anything.

Exactly.

Communism could work very well - IF you had the unnatural ability to turn every member of your population into a willing cog in the machine. Communism is the perfect ideology for a race of robots, like the Borg - not humans.

The reason why it -sort- of works for China, is because they prop their country up on overt slavery and have a culture of being obedient to those with higher status - or 'face' than you have.

This post was edited by LoverManGenius on Oct 24 2021 03:34pm

Doesn't matter what the properties are. Point is, you end up with personal property as a separate category from private property.

What's the difference between personal property and private property?

Anyway, I am not saying that in communist countries, there is zero personal property. I am saying that the people are generally very poor, compared to the citizens of capitalist countries. This appears to be one strike against communism.

I'm guessing you meant to say public property is separate from personal, which is true - and at the same time, not true. When you have a dictatorship, you can't truly own anything - like many Russian farmers learned under Soviet rule.

The truth about communism is that you do have private property, until your private property becomes worthy of 'redistribution.' That is where you begin to run into trouble, because people who generate the means of production realize that it will eventually just be taken away from them - swallowed up and redistributed by the state as your dictator sees fit. The problem with this is that the dictator rarely knows much about how farming works, or any other discipline - for that matter, so he is extremely likely to mismanage the resources and be inadvertently toxic to his regime.


Now if you had an all knowing AI that could properly allocate resources in the most optimal way - and which somehow had the ability to get every human being fanatically on board with its agenda? Then communism becomes vastly superior to everything else.

I think in a lot of communist countries, there are very often famines or mass die-offs, but I don't think it's due to mismanagement of resources/food by an incompetent dictator. This view is too benign. I believe that these tragedies happen because the dictator and the rest of the ruling elite truly genuinely hate the masses. They want their people dead. Why, you might ask? I would venture a guess and say that it's because they are Js. Js hate white people and will do anything to harm them.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 24 2021 04:02pm