https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/biden-manchin-gop-voting-rights/619003/

Older article from May:



How does one tackle the 'Republican' Problem. The problem where the Republican party has used plans of action to legitimately dumb down their own voters so much so that we have our current situation. A literal mob of people so uneducated and have such poor critical thinking skills that they will reverse course on science, prescribed modernism, and reality.

These Republicans voters the party has created are literally surrounding a Hospital as we speak in Texas saying 'my body my choice' to not get a FREE vaccine for the rona all while their state government is passing the most intrusive anti abortion law ever.
These Republican voters try to 'defend' democracy by not accepting the results of a fair election even after multiple audits and proof their own cohorts are actually trying to ruin democracy.
These Republican voters Advocating for the government to not control them all while unquestionably accepting all the social benefits that already exist and asking for more.

What Can a Democratic voter or politician with concern about that do? is there nothing to do?

I am not one to advocate the addition of laws. I wouldn't want the Democrats to fight this with a fury of stupid laws just to combat stupidity. It doesnt make sense. Not only that but you KNOW the juvenile Republican party will use any sort of Democrat tactic to legitimize terror. Just like what they are doing in Texas right now, and 6 other Repub states want to Join in on the overturning of Roe vs Wade.

Can the Democrats fight like that without even worrying about how horrifically childish the Republican party would respond when they got into power? Its kind of like a child that doesnt understand being punished. When the child does something wrong, and then is punished for it; they may get upset and want to retaliate because they feel the punishment was a wrong doing on them. Not learning a lesson, not understanding that actions have consequences, just feigning ignorance to be able to continue to act like a brat. That is Literally the Republican party. How can you combat that when there is no fucking parent telling the Repubs they are dumb as shit? The Spoiled brat only gets more spoiled and more entitled. Its a very vicious circle when you cant smack the kid.

And I think its a joke for Democrats to combat the Republicans with violence. There are too many guns in that Country, straight up. Im not saying Republicans would win or Dems would win. But I do think that violence initiated by Democrats; much like how Republican voters enact violence constantly - would have Republican voters and politicians respond childishly like the above. They Wont at all see or realize the reality that they have already enacted violence and now needs to be reconciled. They would only ignorantly see the Democrats initiating violence and then respond with even more immaturity.

HOW DOES a DEMOCRAT COMBAT THIS?

The Republicans have essentially already lost control of the mass of ignorant mother fuckers. How can Democrats combat this? Legit. What do they do? Establishment democrats do very little under the veil of either not wanting to start shit or not wanting the republicans retaliating.. BUT the Republicans are doing retarded shit anyway, theya re too fucking stupid. How do you combat that? When I combat stupid I usually just immediately walk away, cuz thats easy. Cant walk away from these screaming infants.

How can the Democrats win the war?
Better schooling?
Fight Fire with Fire?
Laws?

How?

This post was edited by Crunkt on Sep 6 2021 01:42pm

i don't like it, but it's hard to ignore that president manchin is doing a terrific job for the establishment party. this is EXACTLY what i predicted. no meaningful change is ever going to happen under corporate dems, they are literally being paid to "lose".

So Is it Possible Gen Z and these youngins will rise with a legitimate Democratic partya new wave party so's to speak.

Need money

And intelligent people

hard to find.

Democrats at-large have no legitimate interest in out-doing Republicans, as they are just corporatists through and through. They're fine to concern themselves with 'procedure' and 'optics' so long as they can position themselves as opposing Republicans without actually accomplishing much, so long as they do it enough just to the extent that they can maintain political power. Michelle Obama's 'When they go low, we go high' is beta-tier cuck shit. That kind of pseudo-moral posturing is how you get the Supreme Court stacked with conservative justices, the corroding of voting and civil rights, and people like Trump or DeSantis in 2024.

There's very little that can be done on the issue of voting rights without raising the stakes substantially. Biden's DOJ is already examining the laws of individual states and that's about all you ask for. If you want a legislative fix, Democrats are going to have to win more elections. Manchin and Sinema are providing cover for at least 5 other Democrats who really don't want to engage in filibuster reform and it seems to be working well.

I think the Democrats are doing about as well as they can and I'm honestly surprised that they are accomplishing so much. People like will say giving universal preschool to all Americans, free community college, reigning in healthcare costs for the elderly, etc. isn't meaningful change but I strongly disagree with that sentiment.




I think this is a pretty lazy take. How do you definite "corportatist" and which members of the House and Senate are "corporatists?" What is the objective measure of that? I agree that Democrats don't engage in scorched earth tactics like Republicans, but is that something that we really want to advocate? It seems to me that, as a whole, voters just aren't willing to punish the GOP for their tactics whereas they are definitely willing to punish Democrats. Why do you think that is?

I think it's less about whether it's something to advocate for v. whether it's what needed given the circumstances. Republicans are not interested in anything other than owning the libs and obstructing. Trying to take some kind of moral high ground makes for good optics if you're concerned with the appearance of integrity, but it doesn't win elections and doesn't translate to long-term, significant change.

The point is that it should win elections merely by the fact that they are supposedly 'doing the right thing'.. Which is commendable in its purist form but then they have no backbone and don't actually make any change as you said which nulls their 'good intentions' tactics to get the vote.

At least Biden is eliminating student debt and actually doing good. He is doing so much good that Democrats are the ones holding back bills right now its such a fucking joke.

hilarious thread, please do go on.

those that take big dollar donations from corporate interest and in return draft / sponsor / support legislation that benefits those donors. they are responsible for this: