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Jul 12 2021 01:16pm
I wonder how PARD feels about the following statements. Quite interesting points written down that I went through with few friends and we ended up having solid conversation over them.
It's a great read, and even if you don't think it applies to yourself, you for sure 100% know someone this accurately applies to.

Taken from ZUBY's Twitter (no idea who this guy is)


1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.
2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.
3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger
4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.
5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.
6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.
7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.
8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.
9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.
10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.
11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.
12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.
13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'.
14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.
15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.
16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.
17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.
18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.
19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.
20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled.
21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good). As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad).
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Jul 12 2021 01:25pm
Mix in a dose of truth with plenty of reaching and some bs that is too vague to be disproved.

Like 1 i would say is mostly true but then

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2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.


Ok... maybe, but according to who, what study did they conduct, how did they measure for it? Like based on my political leanings/ideology I may find x authoritarian meanwhile my neighbor does not. Statistics tends to break down with such subjective and encompassing labels.
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Jul 12 2021 01:31pm
2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.

disagree, its closer to 4x that.
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Jul 12 2021 01:36pm
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Jul 12 2021 02:25pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 12 2021 03:16pm)
I wonder how PARD feels about the following statements. Quite interesting points written down that I went through with few friends and we ended up having solid conversation over them.
It's a great read, and even if you don't think it applies to yourself, you for sure 100% know someone this accurately applies to.

Taken from ZUBY's Twitter (no idea who this guy is)


1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right. YES
2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions. YES
3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger YES, and rightfully so. social disapproval means that women wont *&$% you.
4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. YES, people are dumber now.
5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them. Depends on the organization. The richest people benefit from division so they feed us steady propaganda.
6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations. Absolutely
7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government. It is their third priority. The first and second priority is election and reelection.
8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong. Yes. Personality is imprinted over time and eventually becomes unmovable. If someone has 5000 liberal memories and 1000 conservative memories, they would rather die than vote conservative and that isn't likely to change over time.
9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse. See above.
10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it. Yes
11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative. Conspiracy theory was a term invented by the CIA to manipulate the public into trusting them.
12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion. Yes
13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'. Its is IMPOSSIBLE to get them back to normal.
14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated. Not consciously, but the end result is their slavery.
15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself. Popular science is a propaganda tool by the powerful.
16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing. Yes
17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians. Scientists are easier to buy because Pharmaceutical companies have billions of dollars.
18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment. Yes, this is the thesis of the book Brave New World.
19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach. Most people aren't intelligent enough to know the difference anymore.
20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled. Absolutely.
21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good). As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad). People operate based on rewards and punishments. People will do wrong if they are rewarded for it.


This.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jul 12 2021 02:26pm
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Jul 12 2021 03:24pm
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Mix in a dose of truth with plenty of reaching and some bs that is too vague to be disproved.

Like 1 i would say is mostly true but then



Ok... maybe, but according to who, what study did they conduct, how did they measure for it? Like based on my political leanings/ideology I may find x authoritarian meanwhile my neighbor does not. Statistics tends to break down with such subjective and encompassing labels.


Humans' lower nature is always willing to sacrifice freedom for security. Its a story as old as time.
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