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Jun 24 2021 05:02pm
Communism and Communists did not go away, no, they "changed" from being Lenin Revolutionaries wearing military garb into Gramsci-Alinsky college professors, clandestine journalists, "highly" educated professional college students who would ONLY sustain a career as lifelong "public servants" instead of being private citizens who managed their own affairs while allowing others with that same freedom...

Hegemony has overrun the world, and Great Britain, which has at least, temporarily obstructed the communist EU which is ONLY a substitute for the former Soviet Union, which was created by Western European communists who believed that "this time communism will work, because the right and "peaceful" people are now in charge of this "noble idea"....

There is NO nobility in collectivized economics and in collectivized people because no matter who, and no matter when, when you collectivize nations, when you collectivize cultures, and when you collectivize economics, the end result is always the same----debt, bribery, corruption, dependence, bankruptcy, and ultimately collapse...

The history of Rome instructs us that you cannot centralize individual authority within the sphere of politics without eliminating, through gradual usurpation, the liberty of individual self-ownership...

This post was edited by lakesidelife on Jun 24 2021 05:02pm
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Jun 24 2021 05:17pm
The liberal order in Europe developed as a counter to Russia and it's hilarious to see nimwits pretend that it's somehow aligned ideologically with that illiberal, authoritarian, backwards country.
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Jun 24 2021 05:21pm
Everybody I don't like is a secret communist
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Jun 24 2021 07:39pm
Quote (lakesidelife @ 24 Jun 2021 17:02)
Communism and Communists did not go away, no, they "changed" from being Lenin Revolutionaries wearing military garb into Gramsci-Alinsky college professors, clandestine journalists, "highly" educated professional college students who would ONLY sustain a career as lifelong "public servants" instead of being private citizens who managed their own affairs while allowing others with that same freedom...

when the communist revolution went down under the bolsheviks they killed off all the public "intellectuals" and replaced them with their actors (greek: hypocrites). those people are still in charge and have dominated much of western civilization by playing a magic trick having the patriots watch an iron curtain across the sea while they perverted the pop culture behind the scenes in the west.



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Hegemony has overrun the world, and Great Britain, which has at least, temporarily obstructed the communist EU which is ONLY a substitute for the former Soviet Union, which was created by Western European communists who believed that "this time communism will work, because the right and "peaceful" people are now in charge of this "noble idea"....
There is NO nobility in collectivized economics and in collectivized people because no matter who, and no matter when, when you collectivize nations, when you collectivize cultures, and when you collectivize economics, the end result is always the same----debt, bribery, corruption, dependence, bankruptcy, and ultimately collapse...


there is a nobility who lords over all the collectivist equals, those whom the serfs are indebted to. freddy nietzsche called the nobility of the proto communists "tarrauntulas"

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Otherwise, however, would the tarantulas have it. "Let it be very justice for the world to become full of the storms of our vengeance"--thus do they talk to one another.

"Vengeance will we use, and insult, against all who are not like us"--thus do the tarantula-hearts pledge themselves.

"And 'Will to Equality'--that itself shall henceforth be the name of virtue; and against all that hath power will we raise an outcry!"

Ye preachers of equality, the tyrant-frenzy of impotence crieth thus in you for "equality": your most secret tyrant-longings disguise themselves thus in virtue-words! "




Quote (lakesidelife @ 24 Jun 2021 17:02)

The history of Rome instructs us that you cannot centralize individual authority within the sphere of politics without eliminating, through gradual usurpation, the liberty of individual self-ownership...


by your vocabulary and perspective you sound like someone who grew up watching the iron curtain instead of putting boots on the ground and sitting in on their defiling PAC think tank town halls. i mean this part is the only part youre wholely wrong about, the rest is decent gj w med effort post.
the history of rome instructs me when you get woke you go broke. aristotle on:
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The guard of a legitimate king is composed of citizens: that of a tyrant is composed of foreigners.
It is a habit of tyrants never to like anyone who has a spirit of dignity and independence. The tyrant claims a monopoly of such qualities for himself; he feels that anybody who asserts a rival dignity, or acts with independence, is threatening his own superiority and the despotic power of his tyranny; he hates him accordingly as a subverter of his own authority. It is also a habit of tyrants to prefer the company of aliens to that of citizens at table and in society; citizens, they feel, are enemies, but aliens will offer no opposition.
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in the early decades of the ussr, and especially the secret police, was dominated by people from non-Russian ethnic groups.
plato on:


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And who are the devoted band, and where will he procure them?
They will flock to him, he said, of their own accord, if lie pays them.

By the dog! I said, here are more drones, of every sort and from every land.

Yes, he said, there are.
But will he not desire to get them on the spot?
How do you mean?
He will rob the citizens of their slaves; he will then set them free and enrol them in his bodyguard.

To be sure, he said; and he will be able to trust them best of all.
What a blessed creature, I said, must this tyrant be; he has put to death the others and has these for his trusted friends.

Yes, he said; they are quite of his sort.
Yes, I said, and these are the new citizens whom he has called into existence, who admire him and are his companions, while the good hate and avoid him."


The same tactics still work: if you want to rule and only have weak wrists, subjugate people by destroying their culture and importing scabs to supplant them
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Jun 24 2021 08:03pm
You finally unmasked the truth

Education is evil communism. The only path to capitalist enlightenment is through organized labor.
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Jun 24 2021 08:30pm
I would rather the people control the means of production than an oligarchy.
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Jun 25 2021 12:46am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 25 2021 02:30pm)
I would rather the people control the means of production than an oligarchy.


Communism is oligarchy on steroids. At the very least oligarchies are dependant on common people buying their stuff. Spending is voting. More $$ more voting power. More $$ = more value given to society (with exception of federal reserve printing)
More value = more voting

Low value scrawns who leech of society think that communism is great cause they get more power while not doing shit. Hence why they go hungry all the time they don't produce, typical peasants.
Communism at this point should be discussed as an idea of what NOT to do

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Jun 25 2021 12:55am
Quote (addone @ Jun 25 2021 04:46pm)
Communism is oligarchy on steroids. At the very least oligarchies are dependant on common people buying their stuff. Spending is voting. More $$ more voting power. More $$ = more value given to society (with exception of federal reserve printing)
More value = more voting

Low value scrawns who leech of society think that communism is great cause they get more power while not doing shit. Hence why they go hungry all the time they don't produce, typical peasants.
Communism at this point should be discussed as an idea of what NOT to do


Its never been done on a national level, it always ends up with a corrupt power structure instead of a communal anarchy which would be far more interesting.
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Jun 25 2021 01:43am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 25 2021 06:55pm)
Its never been done on a national level, it always ends up with a corrupt power structure instead of a communal anarchy which would be far more interesting.


Here we go again. Why dont communist idealists identify the main reason for the failure and their lame excuses for their utopia. Anyone with common sense and streetsmarts will quickly point out that it all hinges on complete pure and incorruptible benevolent human beings for that to work. Even a trace of greed and wicked thought will very quickly put that entire system on its head.

If I was to design a political system it would be very closely resemble constitutional Republic with constitution being iron clad. Removal of federal reserve and replacing it with something like and open transparent without usuary
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