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Mar 15 2021 05:16pm
I think its time we looked at how poorly men are treated by society. Men need to band together and collectively check out of a society that doesn't value them by focusing on themselves.

Exhibit A, a gender gap in Switzerland where men pay 3% tax for being men if they don't join the military. Women voted along with a bunch of cucks to maintain the laws around male conscription and male taxes.

https://europeforvisitors.com/switzaustria/articles/swiss_army.htm#:~:text=Swiss%20men%20who%20live%20in,t%20qualify%20for%20military%20service.)

Swiss men who live in other countries don't have to serve in the army, but they're required to tithe 2% of their income to the mother country in the form of a military exemption tax. (The tax is also paid by men who flunk the physical or otherwise don't qualify for military service.) Women aren't required to pay the tax, nor are they expected to serve in the army--although, if they wish, they can can enlist as noncombatants.
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Mar 15 2021 05:19pm
Switzerland
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well there are a lot of descendants of national socialists there. according to the resident national socialist in this subforum his/her family left Prussian territory for Switzerland in 1945
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Mar 15 2021 07:05pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Mar 15 2021 07:16pm)
I think its time we looked at how poorly men are treated by society. Men need to band together and collectively check out of a society that doesn't value them by focusing on themselves.

Exhibit A, a gender gap in Switzerland where men pay 3% tax for being men if they don't join the military. Women voted along with a bunch of cucks to maintain the laws around male conscription and male taxes.

https://europeforvisitors.com/switzaustria/articles/swiss_army.htm#:~:text=Swiss%20men%20who%20live%20in,t%20qualify%20for%20military%20service.)

Swiss men who live in other countries don't have to serve in the army, but they're required to tithe 2% of their income to the mother country in the form of a military exemption tax. (The tax is also paid by men who flunk the physical or otherwise don't qualify for military service.) Women aren't required to pay the tax, nor are they expected to serve in the army--although, if they wish, they can can enlist as noncombatants.


We gave up our only natural advantage when competing with women. Are we really surprised that they are pooping all over the chess board?
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Mar 16 2021 01:16pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 15 2021 08:05pm)
We gave up our only natural advantage when competing with women. Are we really surprised that they are pooping all over the chess board?


Men only have natural advantages in sports. Technology has mitigated it otherwise, ask the Navy SEAL who turned that Somali pirates head into a fine red mist...she shot that guy a mile away while they were both on boats bouncing on the sea.

My biggest question is why are conservative males so afraid of meritocracy? You have all of this false pride.
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Mar 16 2021 02:04pm
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My biggest question is why are conservative males so afraid of meritocracy? You have all of this false pride.


Is it really surprising that many people prefer a society in which they are guaranteed to occupy one of the upper rungs no matter what over a true meritocracy, that is, a society where they would have to bust their ass and still have no guarantee for success or social status?
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Mar 16 2021 02:21pm
Conscription is more common in Europe than you may first realise. Estonia, Finland, Austria, Cyprus and Greece all have it for differing reasons

In the case of Switzerland, there are communities speaking German, French and Italian, as well as immigrants from Portugal and England. Military service brings people from these communities together. When you go through military service with people you form bonds and you'll have each other's backs for life
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Mar 16 2021 02:26pm
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Is it really surprising that many people prefer a society in which they are guaranteed to occupy one of the upper rungs no matter what over a true meritocracy, that is, a society where they would have to bust their ass and still have no guarantee for success or social status?


I'm a competent, smart, driven person, so it's pretty surprising to me.

But I guess I understand why a pansy like Endless would want that.
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Mar 16 2021 02:27pm
Mgtow is just something betas came up with because they were offended by the word incel.
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Mar 16 2021 02:30pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 16 Mar 2021 21:26)
I'm a competent, smart, driven person, so it's pretty surprising to me.

But I guess I understand why a pansy like Endless would want that.


You would probably think different about it if you were one of those who know that a full meritocracy would see their standard of living and social status decrease compared to where it currently is. For a lot of people, this question directly pits their self-interest against the spirit of fairness or moral considerations. Since humans tend to be selfish suckers (myself explicitly included), it really doesnt surprise me that many of them choose their self-interest.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 16 2021 02:31pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 16 2021 03:30pm)
You would probably think different about it if you were one of those who know that a full meritocracy would see their standard of living and social status decrease compared to where it currently is. For a lot of people, this question directly pits their self-interest against the spirit of fairness or moral considerations. Since humans tend to be selfish suckers (myself explicitly included), it really doesnt surprise me that many of them choose their self-interest.


As long as we are both laughing at their claims of "male advantage", then I have no problem with this characterization.
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