There’s a group of relativists, that hold truth to be a purely subjective experience, who have convinced themselves that if a person attempts to adhere to some sense of objective truth, that’s somehow evil. It’s inductive projection.

For all their worship of the collective, they overlook that the sum of all subjective experiences necessarily approximates individual truth and objective morality. No one likes to be hurt by others; that’s their truth. While a single experience is merely a snapshot, the ripple effect is far-reaching. For example, murder is tragic and lies cause reflexive damage.

Yet, in this ideology, murder and lies are acceptable as long as a couple conditions are met, i.e. the victims are undesirables, radicals, or fail to conform to groupthink. Demonizing people into categories approved for retribution necessarily rejects their truth. There’s no thought given to the damage caused to these individuals, as long as the aggressor appears to have greater credibility, being relatively greater intersectional victimization/oppression; this serves as a ranking of the appearance of victimhood in the overall population, rather than actually analyzing the true level of oppression, that person’s actual and individual experience.

The collective cannot think or feel, it has no brain or mind, so only individuals can. Yet, relativists empathize with the perceived collective, or the consensus appearance it renders, at a greater level than the individual experience, which is where suffering actually takes place. It follows that their ideology leads to subjective suffering, and thus is evil even by their own definition of subjective morality.

This post was edited by FGdumpster on Feb 19 2021 12:44am

Careful. This kind of appeal to self-reflection makes people feel like victims. As victims, they have a right to attack you.

Moral relativist checking in.

I liked where you were going in the first paragraph, and then you went somewhere completely different.

I'm sure it seems this way when you've never taken the time to listen to those you consider to be moral relativists.

moral relativists generally still act morally because karma, bereft of a higher power, is a largely self fulfilling prophecy.

if u act shitty u get treated shitty. even those who climb corporate ladders by being backstabbing assholes end up with no real friends and failed marriages.

When did anyone say attempting to adhere to an objective sense of morality (despite how flawed it may be) is evil?

Literally nobody. It's a caricature he's created so he doesnt have to listen

This is Milton’s fundamental argument in Paradise lost.

Satan didnt rebel against God so much as he rebelled against reality itself. Satan thought that he could rewrite the world through his own supposition alone.

Idk, there are genocidal assholes out there doing well for themselves.