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Feb 2 2021 12:19am
So, as with most of my topics, this'll be ratioed the shit out of, and deserves to be. But, it's a point.

So, you have a right to transportation. Literally, you can move yourself from one spot to another. This is a right. It's protected. Except, if you want to do it with a vehicle, you need liability insurance. That way if you harm somebody else, they're covered. Okay.

The argument has been made, though it's not yet implemented, that liability insurance should be required for firearm ownership. Why? Well, if shit happens and somebody is harmed, they need to be covered. Right?

So, we've entered a point in this world where the wrong opinion, not incitement, not illegality, merely the wrong opinion is considered harmful. PTSD, etc. Over words. So, shouldn't words need to be insured? That way, when you (yes, WHEN you) say something that causes harm to another, it's covered.

Discuss, flame, I don't honestly give two shits. I think the absurdity of this pussy fucking generation is completely worthy of mocking. But, I DO think this particular subject WILL come up. I'm merely being an early adopter. :)
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Feb 2 2021 12:35am
Fuck you

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2/1/2021, 10:35:41 PM Sent -0.18 (7,378.18 -> 7,378.00) to InsaneBobb
(367.44 -> 367.62) liability payout
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Fuck you

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2/1/2021, 10:35:41 PM Sent -0.18 (7,378.18 -> 7,378.00) to InsaneBobb
(367.44 -> 367.62) liability payout


Got notifier of gold transaction. Was confused. Saw your post, I must admit, I laughed. Sending back fg ofc. But thanks for the laugh. ♥
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Feb 2 2021 12:39am
Depends on the platform the words are happening.

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Except, if you want to do it with a vehicle, you need liability insurance. That way if you harm somebody else, they're covered. Okay.


actually, you only need insurance if you are moving that vehicle on a public road. An uninspected, uninsured vehicle can be driven off-road no problem.

Likewise, it would depend on what platform the words in question are posted. Are they posted on a .gov website? Were they spoken verbally in a government building? Were they written on a plague in a government building? Were they posted on the door of a private business? Were they spoken verbally in the dungeon basement of a S&M sex club?

This is the context that would determine what liability people have for their words. Just like it would matter whether you are driving your car on a public road, your own property or your neighbor's property where they have posted a 'No Trespassing' sign.
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Feb 2 2021 12:46am
I don't think the future you're anticipating is going to come to fruition, sad to say. However, there have been instances where people have been held liable, including criminally, for their speech. There was that court case that ended within the past couple years where the girlfriend encouraged her suicidal boyfriend to kill himself, which he did, and she was found liable for her contributions and lack of protective actions.
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Feb 2 2021 12:49am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 2 2021 01:46am)
I don't think the future you're anticipating is going to come to fruition, sad to say. However, there have been instances where people have been held liable, including criminally, for their speech. There was that court case that ended within the past couple years where the girlfriend encouraged her suicidal boyfriend to kill himself, which he did, and she was found liable for her contributions and lack of protective actions.


That case isn't really "speech" though. 'Conspiracy to commit murder' has been a crime for a long time and that act can be nothing but speech. Setting up a drug deal is just speech.
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Feb 2 2021 12:50am
Quote (Handcuffs @ 1 Feb 2021 22:46)
I don't think the future you're anticipating is going to come to fruition, sad to say. However, there have been instances where people have been held liable, including criminally, for their speech. There was that court case that ended within the past couple years where the girlfriend encouraged her suicidal boyfriend to kill himself, which he did, and she was found liable for her contributions and lack of protective actions.


I'm not referring to criminality. I'm referring to requiring liability insurance to speak in a public place. Different thing. The SO encouraging suicide is clearly criminal. Our current laws already cover that. There's no need for any form of insurance to cover it. But what about when I say, "Body acceptance is bullshit. You're a fat slob and SHOULD feel bad about yourself. Fucking get off your flabby ass and excercise!" What happens when I get sued because I "assaulted" you, yet I don't have anything to pay out?
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Feb 2 2021 12:51am
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That case isn't really "speech" though. 'Conspiracy to commit murder' has been a crime for a long time and that act can be nothing but speech. Setting up a drug deal is just speech.


I see it differently. It's callous, anti-social, and abusive, but it's still just speech.
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Feb 2 2021 12:52am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 1 2021 10:50pm)
I'm not referring to criminality. I'm referring to requiring liability insurance to speak in a public place. Different thing. The SO encouraging suicide is clearly criminal. Our current laws already cover that. There's no need for any form of insurance to cover it. But what about when I say, "Body acceptance is bullshit. You're a fat slob and SHOULD feel bad about yourself. Fucking get off your flabby ass and excercise!" What happens when I get sued because I "assaulted" you, yet I don't have anything to pay out?


If I were to tell you to kill yourself right now on JSP, and you did so, you think I should be held liable?
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 2 2021 01:51am)
I see it differently. It's callous, anti-social, and abusive, but it's still just speech.


So,

Sue says to John "I'll give you $20k to murder my husband". John murders Sue's husband, but is caught in the act and arrested before any money changes hands.

By your estimation, Sue is not guilty of the crime "conspiracy to commit murder" because the only thing she did was speak?

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