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Jan 21 2021 01:56pm
Joe Biden campaigned on unity and restoring the soul of this nation. This theme was evident in his inauguration speech but it appears that Biden struck a nerve with a lot of people on the right AND left. I also see several members of PaRD complaining about Biden already.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/21/rand-paul-talks-joe-biden-and-donald-trump-impeachment/4243110001/
https://www.city-journal.org/bidens-inaugural-speech-words-of-division
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/21/we-dont-want-biden-eight-arrested-in-portland-after-anti-fascist-demonstrators-vandalize-democratic-party-hq/

So I have to ask....what does unity look like to YOU?

To me, unity means focusing on the things that we have in common more than divisive issues. I think most Americans can agree that we need to be vaccinated against COVID ASAP. I think most Americans can agree that we need some sort of economic relief. I think most Americans can agree that we need to tone down the rhetoric.

Having said that, I don't expect either side to give up their principles in the culture war. For example, we shouldn't expect Democrats to try and take a few wins on abortion. I also don't think it's divisive to roll back certain parts of Trump's legacy that were unpopular with the majority of the country.

Anyway, I want to know what actions would be unifying and what would be divisive in your eyes.
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Jan 21 2021 02:01pm
People hate to be wrong. There will never be such things as unity. People rather go downhill than admit they were wrong on their actions/thoughts or way of living. To them, it's like admitting they failed and it trigger them. Why you think the term soyboy exist? To represent a huge chunk of the population under 25- who fight over pronouns n shit and get triggered by every single thing that ain't what they preach/do/shit.

As someone who ain't from the Usa, i can see how divided you guys are and it's because most of y'all are uneducated and hate to be proved wrong. You guys call facts conspiracies because it goes against that the MSM tell you.

Anyone who do research and see who owns what at the top of the food chain understand that most of the information that circulate have an "agenda".
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Jan 21 2021 02:09pm
“I think most Americans can agree that we need to be vaccinated against COVID ASAP. I think most Americans can agree that we need some sort of economic relief. I think most Americans can agree that we need to tone down the rhetoric.”

agree with these. they’d be a solid start. however:

good luck forcing vaccinations,
good luck with economic relief solely directed towards regular working Americans as that will never clear our beloved legislative body
and even if everyday Americans tone it down, the media fans the volatile rhetoric and there is no way to hold them accountable

we wont be unified. too many people hate others for voting and having views that are “not the way they’re supposed to”. at an optimal level peope will just keep to themselves and not bother othters. last time we were unified was in 2001 right after 9/11. best we hope for is two weeks of everyone cheering for Team USA during the Olympics
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Jan 21 2021 02:16pm
unity looks to me like opposing the govt cronies no matter which "party" is in power. until we do that, we're all just playing their games.
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Quote (excellence @ Jan 21 2021 03:09pm)
“I think most Americans can agree that we need to be vaccinated against COVID ASAP. I think most Americans can agree that we need some sort of economic relief. I think most Americans can agree that we need to tone down the rhetoric.”

agree with these. they’d be a solid start. however:

good luck forcing vaccinations,
good luck with economic relief solely directed towards regular working Americans as that will never clear our beloved legislative body
and even if everyday Americans tone it down, the media fans the volatile rhetoric and there is no way to hold them accountable

we wont be unified. too many people hate others for voting and having views that are “not the way they’re supposed to”. at an optimal level peope will just keep to themselves and not bother othters. last time we were unified was in 2001 right after 9/11. best we hope for is two weeks of everyone cheering for Team USA during the Olympics


This is what's wrong with America. Doesn't question anything and won't see the obvious that was both Covid + BLM hoax happening during the same important election year which was used to make Trump look bad (Lets be real without that he's shit as well). Because of this reasons, there will be new laws signed. Just look around, if you go outside after the curfew you get thousands in fine for simply living your life for a Hoax that ain't worst than your typical flu.

Look around and who was really blamed around the world for all the shit that being going on with Covid and BLM? Trump. Other countries been blaming Trump as well. Ain't shady at all. Not like a political agenda at all.

Because of this, you can be 200% sure there will be more sickness that force you to be vaccinated giving these corporations billions $ they can use in warfare and other place they invest their $.

Funny how the flu been killing old people in mass for decades, nobody lifted a finger. Once you tell them their life might be affected (Huge lie) OH FUCKING GOD HELL NO. YOULL HAVE TO STRIP YOUR FREEDOM AWAY so these people can keep farming on diablo 2 while real people work and live their life.

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on Jan 21 2021 02:21pm
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Jan 21 2021 02:24pm
Trump cultists can unify with my asshole. Everyone else though I'm willing to come together with as long as they're acting in good faith.

You'd have to get into the nitty gritty of any individual topic though to really talk about what actual things are concessionable. Like instead of dismantling the EPA we can figure out where the largest waste is and cut it massively. While pumping some % of that funding to something else, but still making sure to cut it overall at the end of the day.
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Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Jan 21 2021 10:17am)
This is what's wrong with America. Doesn't question anything and won't see the obvious that was both Covid + BLM hoax happening during the same important election year which was used to make Trump look bad (Lets be real without that he's shit as well). Because of this reasons, there will be new laws signed. Just look around, if you go outside after the curfew you get thousands in fine for simply living your life for a Hoax that ain't worst than your typical flu.

Look around and who was really blamed around the world for all the shit that being going on with Covid and BLM? Trump. Other countries been blaming Trump as well. Ain't shady at all. Not like a political agenda at all.

Because of this, you can be 200% sure there will be more sickness that force you to be vaccinated giving these corporations billions $ they can use in warfare and other place they invest their $.

Funny how the flu been killing old people in mass for decades, nobody lifted a finger. Once you tell them their life might be affected (Huge lie) OH FUCKING GOD HELL NO. YOULL HAVE TO STRIP YOUR FREEDOM AWAY so these people can keep farming on diablo 2 while real people work and live their life.



Can you go crawl in a hole and stfu you knuckle dragging retard
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Jan 21 2021 02:26pm
To me, unity looks like coming together in a common goal even if there is an uncommon method.

For instance, both sides actually acknowledging our current healthcare crisis, and coming to an agreement on the facts as they exist, even if the values don't align.

Like, if Republicans could just agree to some totally uncontroversial positions that are wholly supported by evidence, like national healthcare being cheaper and more effective, instead of constantly telling lies. That would be "unity", even if they still opposed nationalized healthcare plans on some other ideological basis.

Like, a basic agreement on the goal and the facts and a good-faith discourse on the subject even if no agreement is reached is "unity" enough for me.

The current less-than-honest discourse coming from the Trump-right, where they don't actually care about governing in the slightest is antithetical to any kind of unity. You can't actually unify with that in any meaningful sense. The separation and cruelty to the "other" is the intent in the first place.

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Quote (DrFaGgIt @ Jan 21 2021 03:26pm)
Can you go crawl in a hole and stfu you knuckle dragging retard


Oof. Right in the feels. That shook me up real good. Might have to go roll one now to take the edge off.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 21 2021 03:26pm)
To me, unity looks like coming together in a common goal even if there is an uncommon method.

For instance, both sides actually acknowledging our current healthcare crisis, and coming to an agreement on the facts as they exist, even if the values don't align.

Like, if Republicans could just agree to some totally uncontroversial positions that are wholly supported by evidence, like national healthcare being cheaper and more effective, instead of constantly telling lies. That would be "unity", even if they still opposed nationalized healthcare plans on some other ideological basis.

Like, a basic agreement on the goal and the facts and a good-faith discourse on the subject even if no agreement is reached is "unity" enough for me.

The current less-than-honest discourse coming from the Trump-right, where they don't actually care about governing in the slightest is antithetical to any kind of unity. You can't actually unify with that in any meaningful sense. The separation and cruelty to the "other" is the intent in the first place.


you admitted that democrats are stalling for the last 12 years and nothing changed. Why you claim republicans are the problem instead of saying both party are the problem? Hard isn't it? To agree with a different group and give them praise.
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