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Oct 9 2020 11:39am
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/your-local-election-hq/nearly-50000-franklin-county-voters-received-incorrect-ballots/

Wow, dishonest headline.

From the article: "voters were sent ballots meant for someone else."

Not ballots with maybe the wrong local politicians on the ballot, but ballots that belong to someone else. And what is to stop those 50,000 ballots from being legitimately submitted by people not entitled to do so?
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Oct 9 2020 11:56am
voter fraud doesnt exist, even the potential for it is almost zero. the democrats and other media sources have said so, as such this article has to be #fakenews
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Oct 9 2020 12:01pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 9 2020 10:39am)
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/your-local-election-hq/nearly-50000-franklin-county-voters-received-incorrect-ballots/

Wow, dishonest headline.

From the article: "voters were sent ballots meant for someone else."

Not ballots with maybe the wrong local politicians on the ballot, but ballots that belong to someone else. And what is to stop those 50,000 ballots from being legitimately submitted by people not entitled to do so?


That's what happens when you have a Republican Secretary of State. Isn't it interesting that Franklin County, one of the few that voted for Hillary in Ohio, is having this issue?

To answer your question, they are pretty strict about signatures. The probability of your ballot not counting is pretty high (Georgia is 1 in 10 for instance) due to signature mismatches. You'd have to have access to their signature AND be really good at forging it.
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Oct 9 2020 12:44pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 10 2020 04:39am)
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/your-local-election-hq/nearly-50000-franklin-county-voters-received-incorrect-ballots/

Wow, dishonest headline.

From the article: "voters were sent ballots meant for someone else."

Not ballots with maybe the wrong local politicians on the ballot, but ballots that belong to someone else. And what is to stop those 50,000 ballots from being legitimately submitted by people not entitled to do so?


Seems more likely to be republicans behind it.
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Oct 9 2020 12:59pm
voter fraud exists, but vote suppression is much worse an against human rights in a country like US IMO.
A country where, i read recently, people who did their time in jail can't vote because they have debts.
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Quote (thundercock @ Oct 9 2020 03:01pm)
That's what happens when you have a Republican Secretary of State. Isn't it interesting that Franklin County, one of the few that voted for Hillary in Ohio, is having this issue?

To answer your question, they are pretty strict about signatures. The probability of your ballot not counting is pretty high (Georgia is 1 in 10 for instance) due to signature mismatches. You'd have to have access to their signature AND be really good at forging it.


as if the ballot counter making $17/h is a forensic signature expert...
a squiggle here and wiggle there, good enough on to the next
they have tens of thousands of tasks per person
think about who is doing the counting. put your own self "in their shoes"
do you think they are using magnifying glasses to determine whether the angle of the letter Y is similar enough to previously scribed notes?
c'mon, man!
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Oct 9 2020 01:36pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 9 2020 01:44pm)
Seems more likely to be republicans behind it.


Right. It has to be a sinister motive, and not error.
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Oct 9 2020 01:39pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 9 2020 02:36pm)
Right. It has to be a sinister motive, and not error.


Republicans have shown they, as a party, aren't approaching governing in good faith, so it wouldn't surprise me.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Oct 9 2020 02:04pm
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Quote (SuperSpreader @ Oct 9 2020 12:00pm)
as if the ballot counter making $17/h is a forensic signature expert...
a squiggle here and wiggle there, good enough on to the next
they have tens of thousands of tasks per person
think about who is doing the counting. put your own self "in their shoes"
do you think they are using magnifying glasses to determine whether the angle of the letter Y is similar enough to previously scribed notes?
c'mon, man!


Ohio, in particular, has different standards per county for signature verification. Ballot processing, which includes signature verification, begins before election day so they can spread out the work. I don't think election workers are in any hurry to get the job done. In addition, suppose that someone ATTEMPTED to do this and were caught. You're looking at a pretty stiff penalty for tipping the scales by 1. Who in their right mind would do that. If the penalty for littering resulted in the removal of your hand, would you intentionally litter?

Here in CA, verification is done electronically. Rejected signatures are verified by committee and the voter is contacted.

As I said before, I'd be more worried about my vote NOT counting than someone impersonating my vote because the probability of that happening is orders of magnitude higher.
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Quote (thundercock @ Oct 9 2020 02:59pm)
Ohio, in particular, has different standards per county for signature verification. Ballot processing, which includes signature verification, begins before election day so they can spread out the work. I don't think election workers are in any hurry to get the job done. In addition, suppose that someone ATTEMPTED to do this and were caught. You're looking at a pretty stiff penalty for tipping the scales by 1. Who in their right mind would do that. If the penalty for littering resulted in the removal of your hand, would you intentionally litter?

Here in CA, verification is done electronically. Rejected signatures are verified by committee and the voter is contacted.

As I said before, I'd be more worried about my vote NOT counting than someone impersonating my vote because the probability of that happening is orders of magnitude higher.


Who's gonna get caught for sending in someone else's ballot?
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