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Sep 26 2020 10:55am
Not something that's widely discussed or mentioned in the media but water is a scarce resource, increasingly so with climate change. Although we can argue to what extent humans are responsible for global warming, that really doesn't answer the pretty big issue of fresh water shortage globally and what we're going to do about it.

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Mexico struggles with U.S. water debt, suggests U.N. audit
Politics Sep 3, 2020 8:25 PM EDT
MEXICO CITY (AP) — As Mexico struggles to pay a water debt to the United States, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Thursday he might personally appeal to President Donald Trump for clemency, or invite United Nations experts to audit water payments.

Mexico has fallen behind in the amount of water it must send north from its dams under a 1944 treaty, and time is running out to make up the shortfall by the Oct. 24 deadline. But farmers in the northern state of Chihuahua want the water for their own crops.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/mexico-struggles-with-u-s-water-debt-suggests-u-n-audit

We basically help Mexico with water however part of the treaty is that they need to reciprocate and release reserves to the southern border states. Currently Mexico is falling short.

What does the next 30-50 years look like? I think disagreements over fresh water may lead to actual wars. You see skirmishes happening between China-India over Himalaya control (huge water source in Asia), you see conflicts around east Africa around the Nile between Egypt & Sudan. The middle east in general is one of the areas that will be most impacted by this going forward.

These water shortages are actually going to get worse in the next decades. Scroll down for an interactive US map that shows which areas will be most impacted because of water.

https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/highlights/report-findings/water-supply#graphic-21051

Even without global warming induced shortages, we see the southwest having real issues.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 26 2020 10:57am
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Sep 26 2020 11:05am
lol, conflicts (and potential ones) over fresh water, critically exacerbated by man made climate change, have been on the radar of those of us who don't deny science for decades now. i find it hilarious that it requires a problem to come right to their doorstep until the anti-intellectual american crowd becomes aware of it...
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Sep 26 2020 11:40am
Nope, climate change doesn't exist, and if it does exist we aren't causing it, and if we are causing it it's not that big of a deal, and if it's that big of a deal we can't really change it anyway. So nothing should be done, so there's no reason to talk about it. You're obviously just a SJW cuck with no understanding of economics.
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Sep 26 2020 11:43am
The water market is severely distorted and that's not helping things either. Fresh water is effectively priced as an infinite resource. I think every household should have a baseline for water and then they should jack up the price from there.
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Sep 26 2020 12:24pm
not surprised the first two replies in this topic are from anti-science privileged lefties
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Sep 26 2020 12:34pm
The first target in the war is Nestle. Their CEO needs to be dragged from his home and executed via guillotine. And it should be televised.
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not surprised the first two replies in this topic are from anti-science privileged lefties


Some people on here can't have a normal discussion without reverting to sub 80iq 'there must be an enemy to blame' posts. This isn't even a right-left issue.
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lol, conflicts (and potential ones) over fresh water, critically exacerbated by man made climate change, have been on the radar of those of us who don't deny science for decades now. i find it hilarious that it requires a problem to come right to their doorstep until the anti-intellectual american crowd becomes aware of it...



Lol
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Sep 26 2020 12:48pm
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Some people on here can't have a normal discussion without reverting to sub 80iq 'there must be an enemy to blame' posts. This isn't even a right-left issue.


This is absolutely a right-left issue, in that the left has known about this issue for like 30 years and been talking about the consequences of it, and the right has actively politicized the issue to avoid acknowledging it exists.

1970 - 2015 - This is fake, and a political issue, and we should wait and do nothing. Obviously the left is lying and scientists are compromised on this problem.

2020 - Guys, let's not make this a political issue.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 26 2020 12:51pm
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