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Sep 21 2020 05:45am
This is a sincere question, brought to mind due to the overwhelming presence of non-US people in US political threads.

Does anywhere else exist? If so, where are the topics? What's going on? I mean, I've got a fairly decent grasp of global politics, but it's odd that I don't see much here. 19 of every 20 topics is specifically about US politics and events.

To make it worse, 4 of 5 people who respond the most don't live in the US, and most have never even travelled to the US, yet continually attempt to shout down those US citizens who seek to voice their opinion.

I mean, going back to the 2016 election, wouldn't some random French guy utilizing a social media site (forums) trying to tell American citizens how to vote be election interference?

So, a challenge to the armchair warriors around the world: Bring your own politics into focus, get a bead on what everyone thinks of YOUR backyard for a little while. Because for now, as far as I'm concerned? The US is the only place in the world that matters. And I've come to this conclusion because it's the only one that the global community on JSP seems to care about.

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Sep 21 2020 05:50am
Thread of the decade. :thumbsup:
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Sep 21 2020 05:55am
As we The British are excellent at complaining i'll start with the UK

None of the politicians have a clue what they're doing. Not sure how the trump lookalike got voted in, but he's absolute garbage with no sense of what's best for the country. The stupidest part is they can't put someone competent against him, all other candidates were equally bad. WTF is wrong with it. Where the heck are the people who know how to run a country and why are they being prevented from being candidates? I'm presuming it's big money just bribing idiots to be prime minister so they can abuse them into making favourable laws for the already rich.

There's my slice of life from the UK.


We generally don't post about it as it's a complete shambles and embarassment.
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Sep 21 2020 05:56am
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As we The British are excellent at complaining i'll start with the UK

None of the politicians have a clue what they're doing. Not sure how the trump lookalike got voted in, but he's absolute garbage with no sense of what's best for the country. The stupidest part is they can't put someone competent against him, all other candidates were equally bad. WTF is wrong with it. Where the heck are the people who know how to run a country and why are they being prevented from being candidates? I'm presuming it's big money just bribing idiots to be prime minister so they can abuse them into making favourable laws for the already rich.

There's my slice of life from the UK.


We generally don't post about it as it's a complete shambles and embarassment.


Would you care to expand why the people voted in favor of Brexit, yet the elite are doing everything they can to insure it never happens, and your nation lies in an eternal limbo as answerable to the EU without the benefits?

Just curious.
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Sep 21 2020 06:15am
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Would you care to expand why the people voted in favor of Brexit, yet the elite are doing everything they can to insure it never happens, and your nation lies in an eternal limbo as answerable to the EU without the benefits?

Just curious.


Populists don't think with their brains, they think with their hearts. Trump voters would have voted for what they're doing.

Their Brexit is as effective as our policing of powerless people.

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Populists don't think with their brains, they think with their hearts. Trump voters would have voted for what they're doing.

Their Brexit is as effective as our policing of powerless people.


Regarding posts without points, you nailed it on the head.

Populists believe that the government of a nation should focus on the needs of that nation. The UK existed as a nation-state to the EU in a way that cost the population more than it ever provided.

From the "Trump Voter" perspective, the UK had all the power. They could simply say "No" to literally anything the EU attempted to insist on, pay nothing, leave, and set up incredibly favorable trade deals with everyone from the US to China to Russia. This would reinforce the UK's industry, banking, tech, power, and entertainment, while removing a huge source of revenue and influence from the EU and likely tanking the value of the Euro.

Instead they caved on nearly every point. Most of what I've seen indicates that most of "The Elite" of the UK are heavily invested in the EU and the Euro, and stand to lose their shirts if relationships really change much.

"Policing of powerless people" is just random words, so trying to pull that into a comparison of anything is only so much nonsense, not to be addressed.

But even your post, skinned, is very indicative of what this topic is about. You took a subject that has absolutely nothing to do with the US (Brexit) and turned it into Trump voters. Why? The US had nothing to do with Brexit. Sure, Obama threatened British citizens if they voted for Brexit, Trump promised them favorable treatment if they voted for it, but aside from a couple rather meaningless speeches, nobody in the US took much note. Why are you turning it into something where you're claiming that the UK Parliament is handling anything other than poorly?
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Regarding posts without points, you nailed it on the head.

Populists believe that the government of a nation should focus on the needs of that nation. The UK existed as a nation-state to the EU in a way that cost the population more than it ever provided.

From the "Trump Voter" perspective, the UK had all the power. They could simply say "No" to literally anything the EU attempted to insist on, pay nothing, leave, and set up incredibly favorable trade deals with everyone from the US to China to Russia. This would reinforce the UK's industry, banking, tech, power, and entertainment, while removing a huge source of revenue and influence from the EU and likely tanking the value of the Euro.

Instead they caved on nearly every point. Most of what I've seen indicates that most of "The Elite" of the UK are heavily invested in the EU and the Euro, and stand to lose their shirts if relationships really change much.

"Policing of powerless people" is just random words, so trying to pull that into a comparison of anything is only so much nonsense, not to be addressed.

But even your post, skinned, is very indicative of what this topic is about. You took a subject that has absolutely nothing to do with the US (Brexit) and turned it into Trump voters. Why? The US had nothing to do with Brexit. Sure, Obama threatened British citizens if they voted for Brexit, Trump promised them favorable treatment if they voted for it, but aside from a couple rather meaningless speeches, nobody in the US took much note. Why are you turning it into something where you're claiming that the UK Parliament is handling anything other than poorly?


Bovine-brained Boris will save them.
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Sep 21 2020 07:02am
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Bovine-brained Boris will save them.


Again, not adding any content. I asked what's going on in the world. You've tossed out an insult without meaning. If you have issue with the current leadership in Britain, perhaps make a basic attempt to explain who they are and what they're doing wrong, in your opinion.

As your comments currently stand, you've added 0 to the conversation that doesn't either point directly back to the US, or simply insult some random person that no US Citizen should ever know or care about. Again, is the US the only nation that really exists?
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Sep 21 2020 08:05am
it is an American website founded by an American for an American video game that was created by an American company.

so there’s that. as to why the OT section has a political subforum where descendants of surrendering national-socialist sympathizers from mainland Europe attempt to interfere in our elections, i guess they are bored

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Again, not adding any content. I asked what's going on in the world. You've tossed out an insult without meaning. If you have issue with the current leadership in Britain, perhaps make a basic attempt to explain who they are and what they're doing wrong, in your opinion.

As your comments currently stand, you've added 0 to the conversation that doesn't either point directly back to the US, or simply insult some random person that no US Citizen should ever know or care about. Again, is the US the only nation that really exists?


that’s the status quo here unfortunately. a lot of berned out lefties upset that ‘those’ people dont “behave the way they expect them to” so they just derail topics with delusional rants
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it is an American website founded by an American for an American video game that was created by an American company.

so there’s that. as to why the OT section has a political subforum where descendants of surrendering national-socialist sympathizers from mainland Europe attempt to interfere in our elections, i guess they are bored

that’s the status quo here unfortunately. a lot of berned out lefties upset that ‘those’ people dont “behave the way they expect them to” so they just derail topics with delusional rants


Regarding the first portion of your response, to a point, I do agree. But JSP has never been marketed as, from, or to an American audience. In fact, huge amounts of effort were put into translations iirc. Instead, it's been a bastion of a global marketplace, which is part of why some games that're virtually non-existent in the US are still so popular for trading here. And looking at the nationality of the majority of respondents in PaRD specifically, it does not appear that "American" would be greater than all other nationalities combined.

Which leads back to the second part of your comment, and the entire basis of the topic. If the United States is not the only nation that exists, then we should probably have a better grasp of world politics, and we won't receive that grasp through our own media sources. We desperately need the viewpoints of those who are living through other forms of government, and other political systems. There's no way we can make informed choices based on being yelled at by socialists, when based on our own sources, those socialists are experiencing far worse shit than we are, right?

So, bring other politics to light. Let the "Trump Show" stick to it's own topic. If Boris is so important, make him a topic and keep it up to date, rather than making 500 more Trump-related topics that swamp everything else.

It's funny that all these non-Americans want to speak badly about "electing a reality show host" yet they've turned his Presidency into a reality show of their own. Again, more evidence that they don't really exist, except as an extension of us. As if the fact that any time we have a depression or recession, they have one too, that's worse, as a result weren't evidence. As if their defense, power, and food needs weren't evidence.

I see America as the lynchpin of the entire world. Even China couldn't maintain it's production without mass importation of Coal from the US. So... Where do we go from here? Apparently nowhere in the world has anything meaningful to say about itself, but can only talk about our President's tweets. Do we all just agree only the US really exists, the rest of everyone are just hangers on, hoping we can drag them along in our wake?
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