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Sep 20 2020 11:54am
I searched through 15 pages of Pard to necro a thread so that we don't have to pollute the picture thread

had to make my own

And I feel like even though climate change hasn't been addressed much lately since the pandemic - I was sure that it'd be coming up again soon.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 20 2020 10:42am)
you didn't answer my question...
pick an option

1. Climate is not changing.
2. Climate is changing but not due to man
3. Climate is changing due to man.


2 and 3 are correct
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Sep 20 2020 11:59am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 20 2020 10:56am)
ok..
Option 2 climate change is not happening due to man.
THEN yes spending the money on the Green new deal or equal would seem to be a waste of time.
IF it is caused by man and our actions can be curtailed or changed to have significant impact on the problem, then his statement is NOT asinine, the GND my not be the answer but spending to change our impact is the point.. That's why I asked where you fall on the scale.


You are still missing my point. He suggested that the GND would have prevented this year's forest fires. Which I see as a purely political move not based on science
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Sep 20 2020 12:00pm
Quote (proccy @ Sep 20 2020 10:59am)
You are still missing my point. He suggested that the GND would have prevented this year's forest fires. Which I see as a purely political move not based on science


Well obviously any "GND" would have zero impact so quickly. So that is true
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Sep 20 2020 12:01pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 20 2020 11:00am)
Well obviously any "GND" would have zero impact so quickly. So that is true


that's basically all I was saying, thank you :P

it's good sometimes to feel heard
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Sep 20 2020 12:01pm
Yeah its dishonest political hackery to pretend man made climate change is to blame for the wildfires and that the Green Leap Forward would prevent them and not be outlandishly expensive and stupid.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Sep 20 2020 12:04pm
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Sep 20 2020 12:02pm
Quote (proccy @ Sep 20 2020 12:59pm)
You are still missing my point. He suggested that the GND would have prevented this year's forest fires. Which I see as a purely political move not based on science


He didn't say that though....

Its basic knowledge that more natural disasters will happen with more global warming, which is why he illustrated the point with multiple different examples all happening at the same time
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Sep 20 2020 12:03pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 20 2020 11:02am)
He didn't say that though....

Its basic knowledge that more natural disasters will happen with more global warming, which is why he illustrated the point with multiple different examples all happening at the same time


He could have worded it in an actually intelligent way, though
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Quote (proccy @ Sep 20 2020 01:03pm)
He could have worded it in an actually intelligent way, though


It's Twitter...

Maybe take 2 seconds to look at the context and think critically about the content.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 20 2020 11:03am)
It's Twitter...

Maybe take 2 seconds to look at the context and think critically about the content.


I am thinking critically about the content which is exactly what's triggering you :lol:
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Sep 20 2020 12:08pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 20 2020 02:03pm)
It's Twitter...

Maybe take 2 seconds to look at the context and think critically about the content.


Exactly. Bernie hasn't demonstrated that this particular forest fire is linked to manmade climate change, or that the fire would have otherwise been prevented by the GND.

It should get slapped with a "misleading media" label and Bernie's account should be suspended.
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