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Dec 11 2019 04:51am
Polls all over the place. Some say hung parliament, some say conservative majority, most say Labour loses seats since last election, presumably to the LibDems mostly.

But who trusts polls any more? Especially when all the polling companies are run by Ex Tories and their friends?

Random internet polls suggest much better results for labour but ofc they're unreliable as fuck.

Gonna be a hell of a night anyway. I'll be up for all of it until we know the result.

This election will define England's future in a way no other has done for decades... If there is a god - Please don't let Boris get a majority.
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Dec 11 2019 06:05am
Will be one hell of a night indeed.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
On this site, the mean seat prediction for Tories was down to just 336 about 6 days ago and getting narrower and narrower, but has trended up again since then.
They now say there's an 82% chance for a Tory majority


The red ellipse shows a 90% confidence area, which contains lots of decisive Tory majorities, but also quite a bit of hung parliament scenarios.


Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 11 Dec 2019 11:51)
If there is a god - Please don't let Boris get a majority.


And then what? Even if this scenario comes true, there would still be an overwhelming probability for Labour + LibDem + SNP to miss a "joint Remainer" majority.
So we'd be back to square one and the gridlock would continue, with neither side being able to get anything done.


From the point of view of a continental European, I just want to get over with this shit. So my preferred outcome is a medium-sized Tory majority, say 15 or 20 seats above the threshold.
This would allow them to finally pull off Brexit, but the majority would be close enough that more moderate Tory MPs would hold a veto power in case Boris breaks his promises and goes for an ultra-hard Brexit.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 11 2019 06:06am
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Dec 11 2019 09:15am
Hard Brexit is out of the equation. It's all about to get this soft Brexit voted, which will probably happen (hopefully?) and then main output will be:

Who will be held responsible of the potential issues ... I doubt it happen peacefully.

Btw few days left:



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Dec 11 2019 04:42pm
meh, i don't think it'll be that close. if we've learned anything those last couple of years, it's that right wingers aren't exactly honest in those polls (even the anonymous ones) and tend to perform better come election day - and it's not exactly a big secret why...

i just hope he'll come out with a solid mandate to finally put an end to this unfortunate marriage. leave means leave so please gtfo already, brits.
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Dec 11 2019 04:45pm
Did James Corden do a decent Boris impression on SNL?
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Dec 11 2019 05:20pm
Quote (fender @ 11 Dec 2019 23:42)
meh, i don't think it'll be that close. if we've learned anything those last couple of years, it's that right wingers aren't exactly honest in those polls (even the anonymous ones) and tend to perform better come election day - and it's not exactly a big secret why...

i just hope he'll come out with a solid mandate to finally put an end to this unfortunate marriage. leave means leave so please gtfo already, brits.


I'm not 100% sure but i think next match will be -new referendum- vs -soft brexit- this will give a reason to corbyn to say no.

But to be honest this is turning into some kind of "Uk hesitating to quit EU which is at its disposal"... Then i feel the salt in my veins, hoping to see some kind of the horrible mess they deserve.

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Dec 11 2019 06:12pm
Hopefully the Tories win. After watching the Crown, it seems to me that the Labour party is really fucking lame.
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Dec 11 2019 07:05pm
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Please don't let Boris get a majority.


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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Dec 2019 12:05)
Will be one hell of a night indeed.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
On this site, the mean seat prediction for Tories was down to just 336 about 6 days ago and getting narrower and narrower, but has trended up again since then.
They now say there's an 82% chance for a Tory majority

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/Frontiers2019.png
The red ellipse shows a 90% confidence area, which contains lots of decisive Tory majorities, but also quite a bit of hung parliament scenarios.




And then what? Even if this scenario comes true, there would still be an overwhelming probability for Labour + LibDem + SNP to miss a "joint Remainer" majority.
So we'd be back to square one and the gridlock would continue, with neither side being able to get anything done.


From the point of view of a continental European, I just want to get over with this shit. So my preferred outcome is a medium-sized Tory majority, say 15 or 20 seats above the threshold.
This would allow them to finally pull off Brexit, but the majority would be close enough that more moderate Tory MPs would hold a veto power in case Boris breaks his promises and goes for an ultra-hard Brexit.


Better gridlock than a Tory government.
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