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Heres a volcanic take:

CNN Is Not So Different from Breitbart
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CNN went apesnit Friday night on the news that Facebook had tapped Breitbart as one of the sources for its new “news tab.” National Review was also tapped, indicating that Facebook is making an effort to be inclusive in its understanding of what news is. Perhaps Facebook has noticed that a declared ideological agenda, as opposed to an undeclared one, is insufficient cause for disregarding a media outlet.

CNN’s Brian Stelter used a chunk of his Friday-night newsletter to waste everyone’s time reporting that various like-minded individuals were of like mind; literally all of the “experts” he contacted for comment about the inclusion of Breitbart were established anti-Breitbarters who he knew would provide him with anti-Breitbart comments. Why reporters continue to launder their opinions through cherry-picked experts, professors, wonks, and fellow journos is a mystery. Why not just tell us what you, Brian Stelter, obviously think, which is that Breitbart is beyond the pale and ought not be admitted in polite company? Make the case, Brian Stelter! Don’t hide behind your friends’ opinions. The case can very easily be made. Except . . . not by you.

The argument I present is not an ad hominem one. It’s a question of the proper credentials for membership in an exclusive club. Breitbart’s willingness to slant the facts in service of its narratives about immigration, crime, and Islam is comparable to CNN’s disregard for balance on these subjects and others.

Both outlets are tendentious, partisan, biased, and relentlessly propagandistic for their own side.

Almost everything Breitbart presents is the truth, or at least arguably the truth. The problem with Breitbart is that it is tendentious, partisan, and biased, relentlessly propagandistic for its side and less interested in the pursuit of truth than in scoring points.

So is CNN.

Breitbart plays up true information that advances its worldview while downplaying or pushing back against true information it sees as damaging to its cause.

So does CNN.

Breitbart regularly resorts to name-calling, exaggeration, and even outright hysteria.

So does CNN.


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It was just a few days ago that Jake Tapper outrageously tarred Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri as an anti-Semite. “In which @HawleyMO calls a Jewish journalist a ‘smug, rich liberal elitist,’” Tapper said in a tweet that went out to 2 million followers. Tapper is one of the few CNN journalists I respect. If even he is caught up in silly partisan hackery it’s a very bad sign. Hawley had not said or implied anything remotely anti-Semitic, and this was a cheap shot, totally unbecoming of anyone who hopes to be seen as a nonpartisan reporter. It’s Breitbart-ish.

Does Breitbart occasionally report things that turn out not to be true? Yes, on very rare occasions.
But so does CNN.

It reported in August that the CIA had recalled a top spy from Russia because President Trump had “repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source.” The New York Times clarified that the decision to extract the spy was made in “late 2016” — during the Obama administration. CNN falsely reported in 2017 that Anthony Scaramucci was being investigated by Congress for ties to a Russian investment fund. CNN falsely reported that Donald Trump Jr. was tipped off in advance about the Russia-backed DNC Wikileaks dump of 2016, when in fact he was told about it after the dump. CNN repeatedly bends facts to exaggerate the prevalence of school shootings. In the service of its anti-gun crusade, which has the feel of Breitbart’s anti-immigration campaign, Don Lemon said, “I was able to go and buy an automatic weapon. . . . Most people can go out and buy an automatic weapon.” No, he didn’t. No, they can’t.


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CNN entertained a panelist — on Stelter’s show, called “Reliable Sources,” no less — who said President Trump “is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were.”

Anderson Cooper Breitbart-ishly characterized tea-party members as conducting a “War on Obama” and derided them as engaging in “tea bagging,” which is not only partisan and nasty but actually obscene.
Cooper descends to schoolyard mockery when “reporting” on Trump-adjacent figures in a way he didn’t for Obama appointees.
It is simply not possible that Cooper can look in the mirror and see a judicious, evenhanded, nonpartisan reporter when he does this kind of thing:

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And tonight, we commend the bravery of White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham, who finally got a brief furlough from West Wing Witness Protection. Grisham popped her head out this morning to check in with her supervisors over at Fox News. Though, it seems like she saw her shadow and [is] now back under ground for six more weeks of stonewalling. . . . Ooh, Stephanie. You got to increase your vocabulary, I mean, your criticism. “Theater” now has been used twice. I mean, Grisham clearly doesn’t get to Broadway enough if she, you know, thinks those press conferences are theater.


Journalism? No, this is just tedious, witless, predictable, undisguised oppositionism. Obama could do no right with Breitbart just as Trump can do no right with CNN. The latter is nothing more than a billion-dollar version of the former.


more:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/cnn-is-not-so-different-from-breitbart/

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Oct 28 2019 08:24pm
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Oct 28 2019 08:22pm
breitbart is blatant in their slant
cnn masquerades as being politically neutral but is chock-full of examples like above

never forget only cnn gave credence to buzzfeed’s massive #fakenews disaster that mueller himself had to issue a stern “this is bullshit” rebuke to

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 28 2019 08:23pm
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Oct 28 2019 08:23pm
Breitbart is more extreme in their bias but i agree that both are deeply biased.


You want decent journalism? look at some of the financials/business type platforms

I found those guys rarely give af about playing politics instead they report things much closer to objectivity.

WSJ & the Economist are really good but you have to pay for them.

Reuters is decent but still biased compared to the above two.

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Oct 28 2019 08:36pm
CNN is def bias. It's pretty disgusting the major verbiage slants when talking about Israel vs Palestine human loss of life, especially children. No surprises for that lean when you lookup who's at the top of that organization hierarchy.

I have a lot more respect for Reuters, they've messed up for sure, but seem to own it better. Thinking of the enhanced smoke pictures they published in the past. Maybe the journalism is a bit better since they have that emphasis on F&R, business, markets, etc.
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Oct 28 2019 08:40pm
that's like comparing poop with diarrhea
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Oct 28 2019 08:42pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 28 2019 10:22pm)
breitbart is blatant in their slant
cnn masquerades as being politically neutral but is chock-full of examples like above


never forget only cnn gave credence to buzzfeed’s massive #fakenews disaster that mueller himself had to issue a stern “this is bullshit” rebuke to


Good point.
CNN dishonestly tries to make people think they are credible neutral reporters of fact and truth, and breitbart is openly biased.

"This is an apple"



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On October 22, 2014, CNN Newsroom host Carol Costello reported on the audio release of Bristol Palin being assaulted by a man at a get-together in Alaska. Costello laughed and called it "quite possibly the best minute and a half of audio we've ever come across"

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On June 13, 2015, while discussing the 2015 attack on the Dallas police headquarters, host Fredricka Whitfield referred to the gunman, James Boulware, as "courageous and brave, if not crazy"

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During live coverage of the 2016 elections, CNN anchor Chris Cuomo said that downloading the hacked and stolen Podesta emails from the WikiLeaks website was a violation of law and that only the media could legally do so. The statement drew criticism to the network for being false.


CNN's Candy Crowley famously butted into a Presidential debate to falsely defend Obama.
Rezla Aslan ate human brains and called Trump a piece of shit
CNN tracked down, attacked and threatened to dox someone for creating a pro-trump anti-CNN meme.

Breitbart better than CNN confirmed.


In the words of Tulsi:

"As we saw in the days leading up to the debate last night, both The New York Times and CNN both ran hit pieces,"
"For them to sit there and try to portray themselves as neutral arbiters, as objective and independent entities working with the DNC to carry out a legitimate debate is frankly just a joke"

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Oct 28 2019 08:43pm
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Oct 28 2019 08:44pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 29 Oct 2019 04:23)
Breitbart is more extreme in their bias but i agree that both are deeply biased.


You want decent journalism? look at some of the financials/business type platforms

I found those guys rarely give af about playing politics instead they report things much closer to objectivity.

WSJ & the Economist are really good but you have to pay for them.

Reuters is decent but still biased compared to the above two.


CNN might not have a bias quite as strong as that of breitbart, but their bias is still huge. And while breitbart is relatively open about its agenda and bias, CNN is constantly engaged in clumsy, almost comical attempts at hiding the blatant bias which is oozing out of virtually all their articles.




The economist might not have a strong political agenda on social issues, but they have a very strong economic bias in favor of tax cuts and deregulation, as well as globalization and free trade. They are perhaps THE flagship of "globalism" and the corresponding mindset.


I think the news outlet with the least amount of bias, apart from pure news agencies like Reuters, is Politico. Their articles and reporting usually contain no partisan and ideological bias, or only very small and forgivable amounts of it. They do, however, have somewhat of a pro-DC-bubble or pro-establishment bias at times. But for an outlet whose focus are the everyday developments inside this very D.C. bubble, a small degree of such a pro-establishment bias seems inevitable.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 28 2019 08:45pm
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Oct 28 2019 08:47pm
"They are all the same" narrative + Wall of pickups ?

Journalists are often more likely moderated left, this is a natural phenomena.

If there something to notice: polarization & division we have since a decade or two, because of internet, because of social medias.
Right wing radicalized even more, maybe even reached a maximum (based, triggered, and redpilled), and left wing followed a bit, yes.

But the most stupid and brutal at this job will always be the rightwing side, intrinsically. :evil:

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Oct 28 2019 08:50pm
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Oct 28 2019 08:57pm
I wouldn't call CNN an organization that is biased in the same vein as Fox or MSNBC. Rather, I think CNN is more likely to focus on controversy in order to improve ratings. To me, they are the most likely network to engage in hysterics. This is an organization that spent an entire fucking hour doing a live "draft" for the Democratic debate.

Anyway, when you're as obsessive about ratings and being the "first" to report on a "story," you're going to make quite a few mistakes.

EDIT: I should mention that I don't consider Breitbart an acceptable source for any information. National Review, while right leaning, is actually pretty solid in their analysis. Ultimately, I'm looking for competent organizations that have a track record of providing thoughtful analysis and promoting truth.

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I think the news outlet with the least amount of bias, apart from pure news agencies like Reuters, is Politico. Their articles and reporting usually contain no partisan and ideological bias, or only very small and forgivable amounts of it. They do, however, have somewhat of a pro-DC-bubble or pro-establishment bias at times. But for an outlet whose focus are the everyday developments inside this very D.C. bubble, a small degree of such a pro-establishment bias seems inevitable.


Not disagreeing with you, but its funny you say that because i just saw them getting flak for going after a RedState journalist for breaking/reporting the Katie Hill story.

The Katie Hill story (non)coverage was particularly interesting as far as media bias goes. I dont think its crazy to think it would have been wildly different if a non-democrat was in her predicament.
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