So, Republicans concoct a strategy as early as 2015 to add a citizen verification question to the Census for the express purposes of undercounting immigrants to concentrate Republican political power under the guise of the 1965 Voting Rights Act.. it gains proponents in Trump’s campaign... after election, the Department of Commerce tells the Department of Justice to create a paper trail by asking the Department of Commerce for its advice... and then they go ahead with it. Then, under investigation in a court case, Trump today declares Executive Privilege over these related documents, and it doesn’t even make the front page on PARD. Pretty damning, or just another Wednesday in the world we now live in.

we do live in a society

I don't see any reason NOT to ask whether people are citizens or not. If we're going to provide healthcare, housing, etc., to illegals or undocumented people, we, American citizens, damn well deserve to know who is in our country. The electoral college is based on population and Democrats just want to "farm" more votes. The tragedy of Lincoln...

This post was edited by CarsV on Jun 12 2019 01:53pm

If it hurts the count it hurts funding and if it hurts funding it hurts the community

the right will say tough shit they should fill it out blah blah it's their fault blah blah

but it hurts the entire community not just A B or C

No, the right will say...

Yo left... quit breaking federal immigration laws, just to pad your electoral weight. And the fed only HAS so much money to give to states for various reasons, so quit breaking federal immigration laws to get more federal money.



Short version... for w/e reason, quit breaking federal immigration laws.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jun 12 2019 02:14pm

Should representation be determined by population, or population of citizens?

Oooh, I know the answer to that one...

Population of citizens.

How fascist and racist of you to even suggest American citizenship still bears meaning.

TIL: Every single person who comes here illegally leans Democratic. Every. Single. One.

Cute rejoinder, BUT... it's the Dems/left that are ignoring federal immigration laws. They are the ones with the sanctuary cities. They are the ones suing the WH and Trump for ANYthing related to illegal immigration, or any proposed issues, that would lead to more accurate info of illegal immigrants in the US.