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What do you guys think ?

he's right on, and I'd argue he was more Christian than any current mainstream Conserative

Tupac was a rapist. If you need someone to validate your opinions you should find a better messenger

I see what you did there.

Winston Churchill and his role in the Bengal famine cost 3 million deaths.

That doesn't mean what some of the things he said wasn't right.

You won't find a perfect human being to listen to if you believe only a pristine and morally upright person with zero faults in their lives are worth validating.

Trump is not perfect and he has done a lot harm for certain situations. It doesn't mean he is wrong on all things.

I can go on and on . I can even talk about Nixon and Kissinger.

I can even talk about Clinton , Bush Junior and Senior , Obama.

They are quite shitty in situations but that doesn't mean certain things that they did or they might have commented is not worth a thought.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Nov 25 2025 12:27pm

Okay?
Guy is trying to market an album

Honestly a lot of these guys lose the narrative once they get a little cash
RATM was a really good example of a left wing message that fell apart once the band members got a little fame and cash

Money corrupts all

Winston Churchill had a war to fight, and another one coming up with Russia for all he knew. The starvation of Indians was the least of his concern, and he said so. It’s not right, but the guy did his part to save Europe from Nazism when no one else in Europe was willing to fight. The good he did is undeniable.

Now, what good did Tupac do? What do you think makes up for being a convicted rapist? Some shitty songs?

I'd be careful who you choose to be influenced by.

This video is to discuss what he said. Not his personal convictions or crime.

If Trump comes up with a video discussing about the Fentanyl problem whether you like him or not people will still listen.

Yes Churchill Save Europe on your side you will think it is undeniably good but definitely not the families of the 3 million. The world doesn't revolves around you. I am not sure why you are so affected by Tupac speech since the purpose is to discuss the content of his comments and not what he did.

I believe when I made the topic, I didn't hail him as a Saint. It is to talk about and reflect what he said, is he Naive ?, Honest ?, Trying to be Utopian ?, Genuine or just pretentious..

If you think you are that morally upright, rational, flawless and you need to point out his depravity, sins, shortcomings in order to diminish this particular four mins of his thoughts ( Whether he does it on purpose or not as to promote his album).

You are welcome to do it.