This is genocide ya? Fits the definition quite accurately on the displacement of people dimension. Less so on the raw killing numbers.

Does anyone dispute that this war has turned into a genocide against the Palestinians?


https://www.nbcnews.com/world/gaza/israel-orders-palestinians-leave-gaza-city-saying-stay-will-considered-rcna235110
Israel’s defense minister on Wednesday ordered all remaining Palestinians to leave Gaza City, saying it was their “last opportunity” and that anyone who stayed would be considered a militant supporter and face the “full force” of Israel’s latest offensive.

Around 400,000 Palestinians have fled famine-stricken Gaza City since Israel launched a major offensive last month aimed at occupying it, but hundreds of thousands remain, many because they cannot afford to leave or are too weak to make the journey to tent camps in the south.

It's just a land grab, and now they're spewing a propaganda campaign into the USA.


Chat GPT:

I understand — you’re asking for my assessment, not just a recap of what courts or organizations are saying.

Based on the legal definition of genocide — which requires intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a protected group — I would say:

There is very strong evidence of mass civilian killing, displacement, starvation, and destruction of infrastructure in Gaza. These acts align with what the Genocide Convention describes as genocidal acts.

The hardest part legally is proving intent. Genocide isn’t just about the scale of destruction; it requires a demonstrable aim to eliminate a people as a group.

From the evidence available (including statements by Israeli officials calling for the erasure of Gaza, limiting food/water, and framing the population as complicit with Hamas), I think there is a credible basis to argue genocidal intent is present. That doesn’t mean every action by Israel meets that standard, but the rhetoric combined with the scale of devastation makes the case compelling.

So, if I give you my judgment plainly:
👉 Yes — I believe Israel’s actions in Gaza plausibly amount to genocide, especially when considering both conduct and official statements.

Would you like me to walk through the five genocidal acts in the UN Genocide Convention and check them one by one against what Israel is doing, so it’s clear how I reached that conclusion?

This post was edited by SBD on Oct 3 2025 10:08am

There is an active topic here: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=102073482&f=119

my responses bolded.



hope this helps, its pretty damning.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 3 2025 11:17am

more then 425 arrested at rally in London because they had signs saying they support Palestine action ... While 1 guy was walking around saying he supports Genocide and the killing of women and children in Gaza..Cop told him he had freedom of speech ... While arresting the rally people for signs lol

they got arrested for river and sea. which is hate speech as it equals the destruction of Israel.

The point of genocide is the intention. Now if you consider that Israel has to fight extremists (Hamas) who control like everything in Gaza this becomes very much tricky. How owuld you react on the 7th of Ocotober? How would you react if the Hamas teaches children the Shihad/jihad? How would you react when your neighbour gains money and help from other states and international institutions but uses this resources for build cheap dirt rockets instead of fixing the problems of the own people? Yet this people even clap about being used as human shields by the Hamas...

when we are talking about proportion: what is the right answer for october the 7th? In my eyes it is a f around and find out situation and that Israel should behead the snake of Hamas.

Id say by the numbers, Israel reached genocide threshold months ago.

By the strategy, the public one at least, they are not. However, I would argue Israel has been and is taking 'ethnic cleansing' to new levels. They are a fanatic ethnocentric state after all.

All that being said, the Palestinians have to go, else they will be annihilated. It's just the harsh reality. So long as Israel gives notice and mobility for them to flee what's coming.

I have to keep re-explaining this and nobody reads it...

This is a HOLY WAR,

Israel & Palastine are CHURCH & STATE,

the only outcome from these is DEATH.

This post was edited by Mondain on Oct 3 2025 03:39pm

Hard for me to say - if it’s true that hamas is hiding among civilians. How do you even fight a war like that without having some unfortunate civilian casualties?

I guess for me it would come down to:

Is Israel purposely targeting civilians?

Is Israel targeting hamas militants, but hamas is using civilians as shields?

I think these are important questions before we accuse someone of genocide.


If the USA was attacked but then all the attackers were hiding among civilians, would you be against retaliation?

This post was edited by xxsjxx1 on Oct 3 2025 03:43pm

god vs allah
Round 120
FIGHT!

You are very clever person, congratulations to you sir.

It seems there is a lot of false propaganda at Hamas side.
Indeed when we look on the map, we can see what does "river to the sea" means. It means eradication of Israel.
Its not an innocent phrase, "supporting the Palestinian people".
Its a terrorist statement.