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Jul 21 2025 05:27am
Although not even close to a Fortune 500 company In-N-Out Burger is moving its HQ out of Cali. This is way more significant than most California fans will admit as In-N-Out moving out of California is the Equivalent of Whataburger’s HQ moving out of Texas.

In-N-Out is so Iconically Californian (though it does have restaurants in other states). However, the most disturbing part of this change is Lynsi Snyder the owner making the statement that Cali is not a great place to raise kids or doing business.

It’s important to note overall the company’s worth and growth have expanded under her leadership and she even cracked the Forbes 400 wealthiest individuals in America and was the youngest Female billionaire in 2012.

This woman is a financial HAWK and most experts expect her to expand the business even more.

The move is expected to lose California about 500 jobs (mostly administrative positions, HR, Advertising and Customer Service positions) while adding an equal amount or more to Tennessee. That’s for the HQ alone. Snyder also plans to consolidate all non-restaurant based jobs in California into one location in Baldwin Park possibly costing thousands more jobs.


https://www.businessinsider.com/in-n-out-lynsi-snyder-relocation-california-tennessee-business-expansion-2025-7

This post was edited by T3XBOT on Jul 21 2025 05:29am
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Jul 21 2025 08:11am
Eh, hardly a concern moving state to state, that's just something the rest of the world watches and laughs at while each American from the same country bicker amount themselves. The greater concern for all Western World is continued mass outsourcing where labour is required, and domestically transitioning to full automation.

I still can't believe how rapid it's been for finance, accounting, IT and HR. Customer service has been for a long time, but the rest have rapidly grown in the past 10-15 years. Every junior 1 sign-off I see on audit files is Malaysian or Pilipino.

For that matter as well, every board reporting package, AGM, etc. where I receive a package from a big 4 firm has its whole section on AI now and how its used during every process, of which I assume is shaving junior file time meaning less domestic hiring again.

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Jul 21 2025 08:23am
Eh, hardly a concern moving state to state, that's just something the rest of the world watches and laughs at while each American from the same country bicker amount themselves. The greater concern for all Western World is continued mass outsourcing where labour is required, and domestically transitioning to full automation.

I still can't believe how rapid it's been for finance, accounting, IT and HR. Customer service has been for a long time, but the rest have rapidly grown in the past 10-15 years. Every junior 1 sign-off I see on audit files is Malaysian or Pilipino.


You forgot India. Also manufacturing is moving from China to India and Bangladesh.

In 20 years time if there is not world War. I m sure there will be another Trump like figure who will win elections because India taking away our Jobs..
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Jul 21 2025 08:25am
You forgot India. Also manufacturing is moving from China to India and Bangladesh.

In 20 years time if there is not world War. I m sure there will be another Trump like figure who will win elections because India taking away our Jobs..


Yeah India is a big one as well, I have seen preference in the accounting and finance world given to Malaysia and Philippines thus far due to higher quality, not sure if that is the actual case or not, but I have also received many outsource packages as part of various finance committees and the Indian ones are always the lowest of quality.

Certainly they seem to dominate tech and customer service though.

Hurts my soul to be honest, It was relatively simple to carve out a good life for yourself with a relatively easy path, BCom into career that paid for your CFA or CA and you were set for life. Now the struggle is to get into a career as a level 1.

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Jul 21 2025 08:36am
Lynsi Snyder the owner making the statement that Cali is not a great place to raise kids


Clearly she's never been to Florida. This is just a billionaire making up shit instead of giving us the real reasons. They want to save money and treat their employees worse. We aren't this dumb to believe it's anything else right?
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Jul 21 2025 08:47am
In n out has more stores in cali than anywhere else. They simply found a better place for thier headquarters which businesses do all the time. But somehow to right leaning California hating knobs, this is political or religious.
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Jul 21 2025 08:51am
You forgot India. Also manufacturing is moving from China to India and Bangladesh.

In 20 years time if there is not world War. I m sure there will be another Trump like figure who will win elections because India taking away our Jobs..


Yeah India is a big one as well, I have seen preference in the accounting and finance world given to Malaysia and Philippines thus far due to higher quality, not sure if that is the actual case or not, but I have also received many outsource packages as part of various finance committees and the Indian ones are always the lowest of quality.

Certainly they seem to dominate tech and customer service though.

Hurts my soul to be honest, It was relatively simple to carve out a good life for yourself with a relatively easy path, BCom into career that paid for your CFA or CA and you were set for life. Now the struggle is to get into a career as a level 1.


Trump and Modi made the deal because China after making virtually trillions off their own version of slave labor actually challenged USA. Big mistake for Xi and India was happy to be given the opportunity in any way/shape/form "leap frog" China on the world stage.

Best deal for Americans. You get the smarter Hindus on VISA'S to America like you've been doing for decades while strategically dropping the low caste muslim hindus in Canada and Europe.

When you fuck with America get ready to pay prices. Everyone talked shit about America the last FOREVER and yet everytime it's US who put everyone else in their place.

Big kids table is US/China/India/Russia.

Little kids table. Everyone else.

If you don't see it that way you are being played. Shout out to a Singaporean whose country has been able to FOONAGEL both systems simultaneously while creating a vast amount of wealth and one of the coolest places on Earth.

&&& Yes 1st world problems are not real problems they are things rich people talk about over coffee or dinner or online on a gaming sub forum.

I've been to rural southern India and my God what those people would do to even have a single moment in 1st world privilege.

Pathetically mundane the trivial issues 1st world people bitch about.

Ever seen two starving dogs rip a part a starving cat?

Ever seen children starving at a train station and no one helping them as they wither away and die as 10,000 people attempt to fit on a train to get to a job that pays them virtually nothing.

These are people who have actually struggled everyday of their life. No one who has ever posted on this sub forum can say the same.

Being homeless in a 1st world country and eating out of the garbage is better then the conditions of the 90% 3rd world shitholes.

We can argue about Capitalism vs Communism but just remember America and China made that deal so they both could enrich themselves.

Trump calling the kettle black on China was the most based statement in history. How could any American whose seen "made in china" on virtually every product they use actually rationally think are relations would sour?

Bad decision for Xi Xin Pings people and a great decision for Modhi because Indians will work for a penny a day because it's more then nothing. Not kidding and good luck trying to argue a competitive wage with an Indian who can do 2x you can for 1/20th the cost. Basic math people.

edit: I worked in software logistics for a subsidiary company of Caterpillar a fortune 500 company. I had no degree but my "Hindu mentor" taught me everything I needed to know to land a job on his dev team in 3-6 months to land an 80k/ salary job which I quit shortly after because it was too boring.

He tossed out peoples applications with "Masters of Computer Science" if they couldn't "be socially adaptive" and were too "socially awkward" most "coders/programmers/IT can be".

So he's a project manager for Caterpillar one of the biggest companies and he's sub contracting Indians to do work for him at 10/hr and they do the same skill work as an engineer who wants to be paid over 100/hr

This is all heavily embedded in all major US corporations it should be apparent even to smaller subsidiary companies and smaller countries too at this point.

The whole thing is 1st world people want this wage and standard of living to go up while the 3rd world continues to burn. How rational is it for people like us to expect our standard of life to get better as populations explode worldwide and the whole "infinite growth on a finite planet" becomes ever more blatantly clear. Mad max world anyone? Whose the best positioned?

Big kids table.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jul 21 2025 09:00am
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Jul 21 2025 08:52am
The tone of this topic implies that California is losing business, when it's the opposite overall. That's why every year when you look at state GDP rankings, California is somehow further ahead even though it sounds like it is dying in the news. The size of California (4th largest economy, larger than Japan) means many businesses always be leaving simply due to scale. A better example than In-N-Out is Hollywood dying and entertainment industry leaving California.


Saying that California is a bad place to raise kids is a political statement. You might think it's bad if you think competing against Asian kids and facing high standards that maybe damage mental health is bad. You might think it's the best place to raise kids if you look at the schools in California and the results they achieve
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Jul 21 2025 08:57am
In n out has more stores in cali than anywhere else. They simply found a better place for thier headquarters which businesses do all the time. But somehow to right leaning California hating knobs, this is political or religious.


It’s HUGE. GDP and Tax wise.


Republic National Distributing Co. is also leaving California cutting over 1700 jobs. Luckily it’s just jobs and revenue lost. That HQ has always been in Texas I believe.


Anyone have any clue why Nationwide isn’t going to be taking any new policies in California? Are they going out of business? Or is the housing market there off right now?

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Jul 21 2025 09:06am
The tone of this topic implies that California is losing business, when it's the opposite overall. That's why every year when you look at state GDP rankings, California is somehow further ahead even though it sounds like it is dying in the news. The size of California (4th largest economy, larger than Japan) means many businesses always be leaving simply due to scale. A better example than In-N-Out is Hollywood dying and entertainment industry leaving California.


Saying that California is a bad place to raise kids is a political statement. You might think it's bad if you think competing against Asian kids and facing high standards that maybe damage mental health is bad. You might think it's the best place to raise kids if you look at the schools in California and the results they achieve


China's lap dog has a high GDP. Wow let's get back to all those tech titans and their Xi Xin Ping fetishes.

Even Governor Newsom had to scrub the streets of the homelessness for his dad Xi Xin Ping.

West coast gets all the cheap Asian goods and then sends the pain east.

This is logistics and like I said I worked in software logistics so there's a lot of goods that come from asia that land in cali? You understand that right? Your port takes in more asian goods then any other port? Would make sense right California gets that "weighted" GDP.

I'd be happy to explain to you how California isn't doing the most and I'm from Illinois we are right there in "not getting shit done" and "bending over to communist ideologs".

edit: Do you think a software engineer at META making 500k/ year does as much as a teacher in Georgia making 40k a year?

Should not California look like a Trillion dollar state when trillion dollar companies are based out of there?

or did real Californians get the boot from silicon valley gods and Hollywood whores.

Do I see it differently? lmk

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jul 21 2025 09:09am
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