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Dec 2 2024 11:03pm
A small town and mayor are being fined for refusing to fly a pride flag.

They also want the town to do a drag time story.


https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-mayor-says-he-refuses-to-be-bullied-or-pay-fine-for-not-flying-pride-flag

A Northern Ontario mayor who was fined for voting against flying a Pride flag at his town hall says he will not be bullied into paying the $5,000 penalty.

Nor will Mayor Harold McQuaker be taking LGBTQ training as he has been ordered to by the Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC).

And, McQuaker, insisted he won’t cave to demands that he must host a Drag Time story hour in the local library, either.

Canada may be a free country in some places. But not in Emo Township — 380 kilometres west of Thunder Bay on the Canada-U.S. border. In this township, defying LGBTQ demands can not only land you a stiff fine, but also an order to attend a re-education camp, too.

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Dec 2 2024 11:06pm
LGBTQ training in Emo town

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Dec 2 2024 11:24pm
Gays being publicly recognized was too far, now we suffer the consequences
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Dec 2 2024 11:52pm
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It’s a cult.

They should be eradicated.

Every country should label them as an extremist group.
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Dec 3 2024 12:17am
Lack of religion or a purpose seems to be the drivel to all kind of extremist groups and I am not even religeous. The vacume left by religion/philosophy is being filled by all kind of extreme believes.

I'm slowly beginning to understand why our supposedly non progressive ancestors lived the way they did and how they survived milenia with those "regressive" believes.

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Dec 3 2024 12:49am
So it sounds like Borderlands Pride made a request in 2020 to the Emo Township to make a proclamation that June would be 'Pride Month' and to display a coinciding Pride flag for 1 week of their choosing during June. If I'm understanding the case history, it appears that the municipality had actually unanimously voted to approve such proclamation the year prior in 2019; however, for some reason this time the council voted 3-2 to reject the request. Seemingly, they had voted 'no' largely because of the flag request noting that the municipality did 'not have a flag pole' or a 'procedure to navigate proclamation requests that involve a display of a flag'. From there, Borderlands Pride sued for discrimination based on R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19 of the Human Rights Code. The court found that one of the defendants, Mayor Harold McQuaker, engaged in discrimination based off of statements entered into record as part of the fact finding of the case, and therefore ruled in favor of Borderlands Pride.

Tribunal Decision: https://3fba3a8f-071c-452c-b30d-381328ac8156.usrfiles.com/ugd/3fba3a_be64abac153042fbb365dbbdc080b8fe.pdf
Specific Human Rights Code R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19 at-play: https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19/v28
Municipal Act of 2001 used as defense by defendants (and rejected by the court): https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/01m25

I can't speak to the legal merits of this case and the Tribunal's decision; however, I feel like this could have been handled in a much more productive manner. I especially think this to be the case after reading an open letter from Borderlands Pride prior to the Tribunal case attempting to reach settlement:

https://www.borderlandpride.org/single-post/open-letter-to-the-township-of-emo

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In June, our complaint about your bigoted and discriminatory decision to refuse to recognize Pride Month in 2020 will proceed to a full hearing on its merits before the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario. The hearing is scheduled for 5 days. Our legal team will be ready. Our proceeding at the Tribunal is based in case law that has been settled in Ontario for 30 years. We cautioned you about this at the outset of this saga in May 2020 – after you made your ill-advised decision and we asked you to reconsider. In other words: you face an uphill battle in this hearing, and are likely going to lose and be ordered to pay significant compensation to us and the other complainants for violating the Human Rights Code.

Even if you do win (which is a very remote possibility, and one we would likely seek judicial review of), you cannot recover your legal costs at the Tribunal. We imagine that your lawyers have already told you this. It is unclear why you are not heeding that advice, especially after losing your motion to have our claim against the individual council members dismissed.

Emo taxpayers must understand that you have now spent tens of thousands of dollars of their money on exorbitant legal fees to defend the homophobia and transphobia of Harold McQuaker, Harrold Boven, and Warren Toles. Despite those significant expenditures, it is unclear what has been paid for given the very limited material that has been served on us to-date. All of this is an inexcusable and foolish waste of taxpayer money at a time when your council is also hiking taxes and cutting local services.

[more continued in link]


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Quote (babun1024 @ Dec 2 2024 10:17pm)
Lack of religion or a purpose seems to be the drivel to all kind of extremist groups and I am not even religeous. The vacume left by religion/philosophy is being filled by all kind of extreme believes.

I'm slowly beginning to understand why our supposedly non progressive ancestors lived the way they did and how they survived milenia with those "regressive" believes.


Bingo

new age cults include LGTBQ, white guilt & WWII founding myth, and poststructuralism

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Dec 3 2024 05:21am
Any step beyond tolerance and into acceptance or pride is too far.
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Well theyre going to get their 5000$ one way or the other. Guess the mayor will have to dip into some funds from nescessary ventures [again] and come up with some bullshit reason why his city doesnt have those things even though they are paying taxes, all because he didnt want to put up a piece of cloth.
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