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Nov 11 2024 10:22pm
It will be AOC vs Vance. I know, sounds absurd. Hear me out

AOC
+Young
+Social media adept
+Meme queen
+Attractive enough to sway the gooner vote
+Very entitled and arrogant (impervious to criticism)
+Even though she's been kissing Dem establishment arse lately, still seems to carry the "outsider" tag
+Can be the first female, first Hispanic
+No scandals
+loved by the left base, can get out the vote
+The Democrat status quo is 100% toast. AoC can be a Trump style wrecking ball to reset their strategy
-Absolute moron, will be destroyed in a fair debate w Vance
-Supported Biden and Kamala blindly
-Is very anti Israel which might get her in hot water with donors

Tldr she's the biggest celebrity the dems have now. There's a few others.

-Newsom is unlikable and governing record is too divisive for the American center
-Gretchen's star has faded lately
-Michelle Obama has the legacy of the old now defeated dem status quo

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Nov 11 2024 10:26pm
AOC is the definition of average...

So I don't get this:

Quote (Thebarba @ 11 Nov 2024 23:22)
Attractive enough to sway the gooner vote





Images of her online are photoshopped; I'm sure she has a filter on here too.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Nov 11 2024 10:28pm
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Nov 11 2024 10:28pm
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-Is very anti Israel which might get her in hot water with donors


this alone completely disqualifies her for office

YOU MUST support Israel
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Nov 11 2024 10:56pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Nov 11 2024 08:26pm)
AOC is the definition of average...

So I don't get this:



https://i.imgur.com/9JqEdmB.png


Images of her online are photoshopped; I'm sure she has a filter on here too.


I'm reminded of a Simpsons episode regarding Moe Sizlak, in which he was turned down for an acting role. The exec says: "We want TV ugly. Not Ugly ugly."

Similarly, AOC is "politician attractive." Much like Gretchen and Palin were in their younger days. But if they were nobodies and you ran into them in the market, they'd be fairly unremarkable
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Nov 11 2024 11:58pm
What does she even do? I just see her being emotional all of the time without saying anything. I recently saw a video of her vsing the new border guy that Trump hired and it looked like a parent was talking to their child.
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Nov 12 2024 01:42am
Quote (majorblood @ Nov 11 2024 10:28pm)
this alone completely disqualifies her for office

YOU MUST support Israel


I have been telling all the dems who are upset about the Trump victory that the only reason he won was because of Israel, and then explain to them what ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government) is.

I may not win these types over to supporting Trump, but I can at least red pill some folks on (((them))), and redirect their anger towards a useful cause.

This post was edited by Gilgameshed on Nov 12 2024 01:42am
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Nov 12 2024 07:43am
She is a useful idiot per the democratic phrasing. Clinton mentioned they have many among their ranks.
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Nov 12 2024 08:42am
No chance.

Far left or far right politicians aren't able to carry the middle which is needed to actually win elections. She's Bernie 2.0, will probably spend the next 30 years harping on why things aren't fair but highly unlikely to be tapped for president.

The problem this country faces on the horizon is our debt is so high and our spending is so unsustainable that people like her that want to give more and more free shit may rise in popularity. We have austerity on the horizon and obviously the poorest members of society will suffer the most, but going into even more spending when we already have our credit cards maxed out isn't the answer.
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Nov 12 2024 09:04am
I do think that she'd lose to Vance, or most Republicans to be honest. Unless Trump drops the ball hard on his 2nd term. But I don't think most people are too worried about austerity - even right wingers are unwilling to make cuts. Boomer Republicans will rightfully complain all day long about how much money is wasted in bloat and corruption or spent frivolously, but don't dare take away muh old person entitlements. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but somehow it rubs me a little wrong that Boomers will be the last generation to enjoy this thing called "retirement" and SSI/Medicare/Medicaid that is actually commensurate with the costs of living and medical care. I believe these programs will still exist for Gen X Millennial etc but will be woefully inadequate, and Boomers are unwilling to budge. No one gives a shit about austerity until it is forced upon them.
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Nov 12 2024 09:22am
Tom Homan just made her look a bit sheepish and whimpy... But if you say so... All this would do is guarantee JD/Vivek (speculation of course) ticket a first term.

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