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Oct 29 2024 04:35am
Another CIA induced color revolution is on the way in Georgia. Let's see whether Georgians are smart enough to prevent a violent coup d'etat. For our Americans friends who didn't have geography lessons at their school, Georgia is meant as a country in Central Asia, not the state Georgia in the US.
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Oct 29 2024 04:37am
Quote (babun1024 @ 29 Oct 2024 18:35)
Another CIA induced color revolution is on the way in Georgia. Let's see whether Georgians are smart enough to prevent a violent coup d'etat. For our Americans friends who didn't have geography lessons at their school, Georgia is meant as a country in Central Asia, not the state Georgia in the US.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14011937/thousands-gather-protest-Georgia-rigged-election.html


Oh we are talking about it right now.

It might actually happen to distract the things happening in Mid East and the "about to end" Russo Ukro war.
I think the Neoc Cons and Neo Liberals are doing one last fxxk up to put Trump in an extremely bad position.

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Oct 29 2024 05:27am
In all likelihood, the allegations of vote buying, intimidation, and propaganda are probably true. Was it confined to one side? Would it have changed the result? I'm not sure anyone has a clue.

Propaganda is inherently part of any democratic process; political ads are almost always propaganda. The EU is taking the position that any result which opposes EU integration is undemocratic. That's unfortunate, because the end result is a one-party state.
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In all likelihood, the allegations of vote buying, intimidation, and propaganda are probably true. Was it confined to one side? Would it have changed the result? I'm not sure anyone has a clue.

Propaganda is inherently part of any democratic process; political ads are almost always propaganda. The EU is taking the position that any result which opposes EU integration is undemocratic. That's unfortunate, because the end result is a one-party state.


It seems to me it is only democracy if the party that wins is supported and recognized by the EU.
Oh well.....Such is life.
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Oct 29 2024 06:17am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 29 2024 12:30pm)
It seems to me it is only democracy if the party that wins is supported and recognized by the EU.
Oh well.....Such is life.


It's the same for Russia. If a pro EU government wins, the result is illegal as well. But that's not the point, the point is Georgia is being groomed as the second Ukraine for future proxy wars with Russia. Curiously enough, Kiev regime is supporting the opposition in Georgia actively :lol:
Russian source: https://tass.com/world/1863735
Eu Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/georgia-election-was-just-as-much-about-the-economy/ar-AA1t6E3h

They strongly support the idea of Georgia ending up like Ukraine.

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the price of peaches might never recover.
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It's the same for Russia. If a pro EU government wins, the result is illegal as well. But that's not the point, the point is Georgia is being groomed as the second Ukraine for future proxy wars with Russia. Curiously enough, Kiev regime is supporting the opposition in Georgia actively :lol:
Russian source: https://tass.com/world/1863735
Eu Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/georgia-election-was-just-as-much-about-the-economy/ar-AA1t6E3h

They strongly support the idea of Georgia ending up like Ukraine.


Let's all have a Detente Russia, Ukraine, Mid East, EU, China, Taiwan, etc etc and sit down everyone have a good little chat so everyone can be relatively safe. and make some money, build or rebuild some infrastructure, have a pause to take a breather.

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Oct 29 2024 06:33am
Quote (babun1024 @ Oct 29 2024 07:17pm)
It's the same for Russia. If a pro EU government wins, the result is illegal as well. But that's not the point, the point is Georgia is being groomed as the second Ukraine for future proxy wars with Russia. Curiously enough, Kiev regime is supporting the opposition in Georgia actively :lol:
Russian source: https://tass.com/world/1863735
Eu Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/georgia-election-was-just-as-much-about-the-economy/ar-AA1t6E3h

They strongly support the idea of Georgia ending up like Ukraine.


This been brewing for a while

NATO Bucharest summit 2008 --> NATO welcomed Ukraine's and Georgia's future NATO memberships

Obviously it takes years of talks leading up to such a decision, talks likely started shortly after the fall of the USSR
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Georgia and Ukraine have a lot of similarities.

1. Both were part of the USSR and fall, broadly, into what is coined the "sphere of influence" of Russia.
2. Both are at different stages in their relationship with the West (and Russia) and Georgia's path/journey appears to inevitably walk down the same path as that of Ukraine, albeit 1-2 decades later.

Ukraine was encouraged (and willingly) looked ever westwards towards the EU and US (freedom democracy trade and all that good stuff) until in 2014 when a material shift in the proverbial chess board occurred. The US had successfully changed Ukraine from a Black piece to a White piece by way of a coup in Ukraine. What followed next is well known, the country had a 8 year civil war (the east of the country was not happy with what happened but lacked the ability to change the situation) and events culminated in Russia invading Ukraine, more on that at the end.

The current Ukrainian position is to seek to escalate the war by way of launching missile strikes deep into Russia in order to galvanize Russia into a response which in turn Ukraine hopes will drag the US and Nato more directly into the conflict, read: World War 3. How people are cheer-leading for this is beyond me, but here we are. The current Georgia position is that while some of its politicians accept the reality (they are geographically closer to Russia then they are to the US, and its not safe to move too far West) its people have for some time now been heavily influenced by outside NGO's / companies etc and believe that it is time to integrate more closely with the EU, Nato, The West, USA and all that freedom democracy and all that good stuff.

George first introduced its foreign agents law "Law on Transparency of Foreign Influence," in 2023. This law is similar to Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) which exists in the United States. That is to say, if you are working on behalf of an entity outside of the country, this must be declared. In response, almost....magically, there were mass protests against this law. Just think about that for a moment. Mass protests against a law, which wanted NGO's and companies to declare that they were acting at the behest of a foreign power. This to my mind shows that the grassroots strength of said NGO's is so strong, that it is inevitable that Georgia will have a western government (similar to the 2014 Ukraine Government) and that we will then see similar shenanigans such as joint military exercises between Georgia and Nato, followed by a bid to join Nato, followed by the real threat of Russia invading Georgia, again.

Lets step back to Russia for a moment:

When we were kids growing up, Iraq and Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Saddam bad, USA good. This was what I believed because thats how it was portrayed. We now know that the US practically invited its puppet dictator (Saddam) to invade Kuwait and then double crossed him. The rest as they say, is history. Then we had the Russia and the US. The US practically invited Russia to invade Ukraine and then double crossed Russia with what followed. If any of this is fantasy land news to you, I invite you to go read up about Georgia, Ukraine, Russia, Iraq and the US involvement.

cheers.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 30 2024 06:53am
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Better install Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon again
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