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Oct 9 2024 12:00pm
Thread for tracking information related to UAP (Formerly UFOs; stands for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon), and the way that this intersects with violations of the 1st Amendment by the DoD, DoE, and the IC in collaboration with Defense Contractors as they operate deeper-than-black programs with no congressional oversight or reporting (not even to Gang of Eight).

tl;dr: US Government has had a legacy program devoted to the detection, retrieval, and reverse-engineering of UAP craft spanning back to WWI; Wright-Patterson AFB and Nellis AFB has been a main location for the craft. Beings/pilots/biologics have been retrieved as well; Battelle National Biodefense Institute is a main location for biologics. Information protected under the Atomic Energy Act of 1946 has kept information classified at a Manhattan Project level of secrecy, as there are reports that Russia and China are both also in possession of UAP. The US has allegedly had some success in its own reverse-engineering efforts, and coincides with the suppression of anti-gravity and zero-point energy technology under the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951.

Major reporting highlights:

2017: Luis Elizondo, US Army Counterintelligence Officer and former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), released 3 videos from the Pentagon in a NYT story displaying examples of the US Government's possession of record and sensor data of UAP. These have become known as the GIMBAL, GoFast, and FLIR1. Luis ended up resigning due to being stonewalled by the DoD in releasing information to the public and because there were operations occurring outside of congressional oversight.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Elizondo

2023: USAF Intelligence Officer David Grusch (Alongside USAF Pilots Ryan Graves and David Fravor) testified to Congress that while working at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency he was tasked with compiling information on all Special Access Programs related to UAP and received credible testimony from first and second-hand witnesses supporting that the US has an extensive UAP program. He was denied access to the deepest SAPs, experiencing retaliation from his superiors when trying to persist and complete his task, and ultimately filed a complaint to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community who deemed his report as both "credible and urgent". Grusch claims to have 40 whistleblowers who are open to testifying; however, they are terrified due to the lack of whistleblower protections and because there have been allegations that the legacy program has utilized threats of violence, coercion, and murder to keep things covered up. Some of his Congressional testimony was in an open hearing; some in closed meetings.

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Dave_G_HOC_Speech_FINAL_For_Trans.pdf



October 8th, 2024: Journalist Michael Shellenberger posted that a credible whistleblower has come forward sharing that the US Government has operated a legacy program for UAPs that existed outside of Congressional oversight and was the 'real' UAP program whereas governmental agencies such as AATIP and the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) were/are largely front organizations meant for disinformation purposes. The legacy program currently/recently used a project called "Immaculate Constellation" which is the god-eye of sensors to detect UAPs before other governmental agencies, allowing them to retrieve and move craft before anyone else and is an Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP).

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The new UAP whistleblower claims that the US military and IC database includes videos and images taken using “Infrared (IR), Forward-Looking Infrared (FLIR), Full Motion Video (FMV), and Still Photography.” The government whistleblower made their claims in a report provided to authorized Committees of Congress and their staff. The whistleblower alleges that the DOD created the USAP, called “Immaculate Constellation,” in 2017 after the New York Times published an article describing an informal Pentagon UAP program called “Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program,” or AATIP. The report shared with Congress says, “IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION serves as a central or 'parent' USAP that consolidates observations” of UAPs and “by both tasked and untasked collection platforms.”

The whistleblower’s report said that “A significant volume of intelligence reports documenting first-hand encounters with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs) or Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) by DOD personnel exists within defense HUMINT [Human Intelligence] databases accessible to the Intelligence Community.” Immaculate Constellation ”includes high-quality Imagery Intelligence (IMINT) and Measurement and Signature Intelligence (MASINT) of UAPs,” the whistleblower’s report adds. “The sources of this intelligence are a blend of directed and incidental collection capabilities positioned in Low Earth Orbit (LEO), the upper atmosphere, as well as military and civilian aviation altitudes and maritime environments.” The report to Congress describes in detail various UAPs. “From 1991 to 2022, the most common UAP shapes reported in this USG dataset were spheres/orbs, discs/saucers, ovals/tic-tacs, triangles, boomerang/arrowhead, and irregular/organic.” The report describes various incidents found in the HUMINT databases. One involved orbs surrounding and forcing an F-22 out of its patrol area. “The F-22 broke trajectory and attempted to evade but was intercepted and boxed in by approximately 3-6 UAPs,” according to the report.

“One UAP maneuvered in proximity (>12 meters) to the area directly starboard of the cockpit; there the UAP established a rigid spatial relationship with the F-22, maintaining its exact position and orientation parallel with the F-22’s cockpit despite multiple evasive rolls and maneuvers. Surrounded by the presumed hostile UAPs, the F-22 was forced out of the mission area under the escort of the UAP formation.”

In another incident, the crew of a Navy aircraft carrier watched a “small orange-red sphere” rapidly descend from a high altitude to 100-200 yards directly above the flight deck of the CVN [aircraft carrier].

“The UAPs appeared to emit a soft orange-red light which, bizarrely, did not illuminate the ocean or the flight deck of the CVN despite the visual appearance of intense luminosity. The surface of the UAP was observed to be dynamic, ‘roiling like the surface of the sun.’”

The whistleblower’s report includes seven categories of evidence. It describes in detail various UAP sightings collected by technical assets and US military personnel. “The multitude of wavelengths collected by these sensors,” the report says, “have captured UAP characteristics that are difficult or impossible to observe with the human eye alone. Subtle atmospheric effects associated with UAPs are also visible through the sensors employed by the U.S. military and intelligence agencies.


https://www.public.news/p/pentagon-is-illegally-hiding-secret

November 13th, 2024: Rep. Nancy Mace is chairing a second public UAP hearing on November 13th in the US House of Representative's Oversight Committee. Due to witnesses being announced early on before the previous Congressional UAP hearing in 2023, resulting in whistleblowers being intimidated, the witness list is being held tightly to prevent this and encourage people, particularly those with first-hand testimony, to come forward at this hearing.

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There was a recent story on Newsnation featuring the findings of Dr. Beatrice Villarroel where she had analyzed glass slides/plates in Observatory archives from the post-Roswell timeframe when allegedly UFO were reported above White House if I am recalling the story right.

This was pre-sputnik 1, before man put objects into orbit. Pretty objective evidence, now you see them now you don't.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-92162-7



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Quote (RedFromWinter @ Oct 9 2024 11:19am)
There was a recent story on Newsnation featuring the findings of Dr. Beatrice Villarroel where she had analyzed glass slides/plates in Observatories archives from the post-Roswell timeframe when allegedly UFO were reported above White House if I am recalling the story right.

This was pre-sputnik 1, before man put objects into orbit. Pretty objective evidence, now you see them now you don't.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-92162-7

https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-021-92162-7/MediaObjects/41598_2021_92162_Fig1_HTML.jpg


News Nation, and News Nation's Ross Coulthart in particular, has been the main media source for covering this, as the largest media outlets are deafening silent on this issue. I saw that they did an episode with Dr. Beatrice Villarroel, but have not actually watched it / looked into her work specifically. Glad to hear other people are following these stories though!

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Oct 9 2024 12:30pm
If extraterrestrial life exists and is smart, they will wipe out all of humanity. We deserve it.
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Oct 9 2024 12:31pm
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If extraterrestrial life exists and is smart, they will wipe out all of humanity. We deserve it.


There are a number of theories of what Non-Human Intelligence may be, and extraterrestrial is but one of many hypotheses. Personally, I don't make any claims about which hypothesis may be the most-correct; however, there is certainly something going on.
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There are a number of theories of what Non-Human Intelligence may be, and extraterrestrial is but one of many hypotheses. Personally, I don't make any claims about which hypothesis may be the most-correct; however, there is certainly something going on.


"I want to believe "

As much as I like these stories, it's challenging to accept any group of people can keep a secret, especially if it's actually something extraterrestrial or bizarre.

There are also some wild crazy CIA publications from the 50s era, some of it fabricated and backbone of computer science today. Holography

Secrets probably more mundane than extraordinary, but still huge leverage for a superpowe

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Oct 9 2024 02:16pm
How come UFO appears only in USA most of the time.

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There are a number of theories of what Non-Human Intelligence may be, and extraterrestrial is but one of many hypotheses. Personally, I don't make any claims about which hypothesis may be the most-correct; however, there is certainly something going on.


Maybe Chinese UFO. B)

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How come UFO appears only in USA most of the time.



Maybe Chinese UFO. B)


It's because UFOs are an American science fiction invention and people tend to have a hard time distinguishing reality from fictional entertainment media
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UFOs are real...
unidentified flying object, yup object, yup flying, yup cant identify it. lol

Aliens are NOT real.
A manufactured "threat" from outer space will be used to force the world into a One World Totalitarian Socialist Government.

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Oct 9 2024 03:55pm
saw a sr-71 blackbird looking ufo flying pretty low and way faster than a normal plane/jet back in 2012. i had eaten quite a bit of fungus earlier that day, but wasn't having visuals that would've explained seeing a craft like that, so i still think it was a real ufo or secret government craft. The last flight of a sr-71 blackbird was in 1999 and i dont think any other jets have that same distinct shape anymore, so i still wonder what it could've been
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