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Sep 3 2024 03:47pm


Identity Politics, Wokeness and Politics in games to push certain agendas have cause a game that cost 250M USD to develop over an 8 year period to shut down.
What are your thoughts on this.

Will Dustborn, another game that is pushing Identity Politics be facing the axe soon as well ?

Would welcome some views and discussions.


https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/concord-is-shutting-down-after-two-weeks-but-is-that-unprecedented/2900-5747/

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I read that Sony was offering refunds for Concord - a good idea, since that won't cost them very much!

These woke games need to be preserved for display in a museum.
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I firmly believe that if your video game is well made, fun and innovative, people will not give a shit about it having identity politics or not.
If its a AAA derivative live service model dead on arrival gigaflop, wokeness is just the excuse both detractors and apologists will latch onto.

The first thing a piece of entertainment needs to have is a hook. You write on a 2 by 6 notecard why anyone should care about your product. What is its unique selling point.
Concord feels like an AI model was asked how to create a profitable cash grab video game by some industry executives and spat out garbage about cartoony brightly colored live service team shooter with loot mechanics, and I say this as someone who has not even bothered to google what concord actually is or seen even a minute of footage, I'm so disinterested in it I don't even know exactly what it is, I just know why it flopped.

Name any successful piece of entertainment, I'll tell you its hook. But a gigaflop like this takes a special level of blandness
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Sep 3 2024 04:13pm
Quote (El1te @ 4 Sep 2024 06:07)
I read that Sony was offering refunds for Concord - a good idea, since that won't cost them very much!

These woke games need to be preserved for display in a museum.


Imagine This.

1. 100s of millions to develop
2. Shut down two weeks after launch
3. Lose 100s of millions.
4. And you have to refund.......Well...at least they refund. That is a good start.
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Sep 3 2024 04:17pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 4 Sep 2024 06:11)
I firmly believe that if your video game is well made, fun and innovative, people will not give a shit about it having identity politics or not.
If its a AAA derivative live service model dead on arrival gigaflop, wokeness is just the excuse both detractors and apologists will latch onto.

The first thing a piece of entertainment needs to have is a hook. You write on a 2 by 6 notecard why anyone should care about your product. What is its unique selling point.
Concord feels like an AI model was asked how to create a profitable cash grab video game by some industry executives and spat out garbage about cartoony brightly colored live service team shooter with loot mechanics, and I say this as someone who has not even bothered to google what concord actually is or seen even a minute of footage, I'm so disinterested in it I don't even know exactly what it is, I just know why it flopped.

Name any successful piece of entertainment, I'll tell you its hook. But a gigaflop like this takes a special level of blandness


It is basically a game like Overwatch 2 with extra dosage of identity politics.
I heard it has lazy writing so on and so forth.

BG3 has some LGBT concepts but it was well accepted. Games like Concord and Dustborn is really lazy and bad writing like the recent Star Wars or any other movies and shows that are produced in recent years.

The worst thing is the so called " Journalist " from IGN, ScreenRant , etc etc are laying the blame on gamers worldwide using rather foul and demeaning language because they didn't support.
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Sep 3 2024 04:22pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Sep 3 2024 04:47pm)
Identity Politics, Wokeness and Politics in games to push certain agendas have cause a game that cost 250M USD to develop over an 8 year period to shut down.
What are your thoughts on this.

Will Dustborn, another game that is pushing Identity Politics be facing the axe soon as well ?

Would welcome some views and discussions.


https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/concord-is-shutting-down-after-two-weeks-but-is-that-unprecedented/2900-5747/


I don't understand why it cost so much to develop, the game literally played like a piece of shit not even accounting for all the woke gay stuff they made everything into.
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Sep 3 2024 04:29pm
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I don't understand why it cost so much to develop, the game literally played like a piece of shit not even accounting for all the woke gay stuff they made everything into.


This amazed me as well.

Black Myth: Wukong cost 75M USD to develop starting with 40 staff and ended up with 140 Staff. I heard AAA games and perhaps games like Dustborn and Concord will have at least 200 Staff and above.

So maybe overheads and pay ( Western Developers have a much higher pay grade) ? And consultation fees to companies like Sweet Baby Inc to guide them I supposed ? :(

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Sep 3 2024 05:29pm)
This amazed me as well.

Black Myth: Wukong cost 75M USD to develop starting with 40 staff and ended up with 140 Staff. I heard AAA games and perhaps games like Dustborn and Concord will have at least 200 Staff and above.

So maybe overheads and pay ( Western Developers have a much higher pay grade) ? And consultation fees to companies like Sweet Baby Inc to guide them I supposed ? :(


I mean if they wanted to make an awesome leftist game, they could of tooken the dustborn premis, but instead of freaks and some futuristic setting.
They could of made the game about the cultural revolution in China, it would have the same mechanics of going around shaming people into submission, maybe a random mechanic where if you shame the wrong NPC they kill you and you previous character is dead and you the player just transform into the body of the nearest communist college student.
It's basically the same concept at its core.

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Sep 3 2024 04:53pm
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I mean if they wanted to make an awesome leftist game, they could of tooken the dustborn premis, but instead of freaks and some futuristic setting.
They could of made the game about the cultural revolution in China, it would have the same mechanics of going around shaming people into submission, maybe a random mechanic where if you shame the wrong NPC they kill you and you previous character is dead and you the player just transform into the body of the nearest communist college student.


But they didn't. :lol: .

I also heard Dustborn or Concord maybe ? used government / Taxpayer funding as well. Not in the millions but still..
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But they didn't. :lol: .

I also heard Dustborn or Concord maybe ? used government / Taxpayer funding as well. Not in the millions but still..


Dustborn was completely funded by the EU, they don't need to sell any games, they already cashed their checks.
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