I have a legitimate question for resident conservatives about the discourse around transgender people within your spaces. I do try and see what conservatives have to say on this, but I'm left confused and hoping that folks can elucidate:

It appears that the prevailing opinion among conservatives is that transgender people / "transgenderism" is a mental illness. I'm not going to question that position, and want to accept that that is how it is viewed (but am happy to also hear that my understanding is incorrect). Given that the prevailing opinion is that this is a form of mental illness, I wonder what are the standards, principles, or expectations amongst conservatives for when you speak about, or with each other about, people with mental illness?

As an outsider, it seems commonplace that people make transgender compilation videos, TikTok reaction videos (I've seen Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens do this in particular), and share other forms of content where then conservatives absolutely eviscerate the people featured in terms of their physical appearance, attire, speech, mannerisms, etc. This I find difficult to understand or reconcile. I've not seen or heard a conservative thought leader speak out and say that if this is the prevailing conservative opinion, then we should be intentional about how we speak about people with mental illness. I believe conservatives would not find this same behavior acceptable if it were done about people with other forms of mental illness, or at least that is my hope. For some reason though, transgender people are seemingly an exception.

I welcome thoughts and reactions. Thanks!

I wonder how many billions of dollars it would cost to put a third rest room everywhere?

I'm not sure. Retrofitting is certainly one idea, but I'm wondering if you have thoughts on the question in the OP?

My approach to transgender individuals in public spaces often focuses on concerns about privacy, safety, and maintaining traditional gender norms. I might argue for segregating facilities based on biological sex rather than gender identity, I fear open policies could compromise others' comfort and safety.

As a compromise, I would support the creation of gender-neutral, single-occupancy restrooms or changing rooms. This solution aims to respect the privacy and comfort of everyone, providing a balanced approach that accommodates the needs of transgender individuals without conflicting with traditional norms.

- A Right leaning Canadian.

While that may be, this stance would be considered furthest left possible via American standard even though it's partial for sure

Hey, thanks for sharing your perspective! There's certainly a large conversation to be had about public spaces, facilities, etc. I'm curious though, what principles or standards do you feel most aligned with when talking about transgender people?

because transgenderism is often viewed, especially due to its recent rise of popularity and cultural forced acceptance, as more of a social contagion than a normal 'mentall illness'

it's not a viewed as a legitimate mental disorder exactly and mentally ill is more of a imprecise way to describe that they have a problem

This post was edited by majorblood on Aug 21 2024 02:03am

This is insightful, as I have wondered if the usage of "mental illness" by conservatives conveys a genuine consideration of mental illness, or if it's a misnomer for a different sentiment--perhaps a social contagion, like you're saying.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Aug 21 2024 02:05am

Yes you are supposed to treat or ameliorate peoples mental illnesses, not encourage and feed their disorder.
What is so hard to understand about this, you don't give a psychotic person having an episode a gun and tell them to kill someone.
But for some reason this is the accepted medical practice when someone is mentally ill.
What our major complaint is the brainwashing, grooming, and baiting of children into this lifestyle of mental illness, and ruining their lives.
The vast majority of these children suffer from autism in the first place and they are predated on by liberal institutions, while wealthy liberals literally invest in it like the Pritzker family.

My quandary comes from a personal belief that if I were to view a person, or a demographic of people, as "mentally ill" then I would have certain principles and expectations for myself with respect to how I speak about them and with other people. Making compilation videos, reaction videos, and eviscerating people in comment sections would not align with my personal views on this. I wouldn't accept this with any other form of mental illness, such as people with schizophrenia, and I imagine most people wouldn't either. What I assume then, is that transgender people are an exception in the category of "mental illness", and so the usage probably conveys some alternative meaning than standard usage of the term.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Aug 21 2024 02:09am