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Mar 19 2024 02:09pm
Have you seen the new "hate" crime laws in Scotland?
This is the worst free speech law in any western country ever.
How can you not see they are all corrupted and actively work against their own people yet?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56364821
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Mar 19 2024 02:17pm
According to the article, you are still allowed to post and discuss your beliefs under the new law. Apparently you can't try to harm others in the process. Is it so bad?
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Mar 19 2024 02:18pm
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Mar 19 2024 02:19pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 19 2024 09:18pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH8U1r5o0Q4


I'm not watching any videos, ever, you got a TLDR perhaps? :)
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Mar 19 2024 02:19pm
The American founding father's vision of free speech is an absolute outlier in the history of the world. Western Europe like the rest of the world has no engrained cultural tradition of free expression, it was imposed upon them in the aftermath of WW2 and never rooted, only a superficial window dressing when times make it convenient. After all, the entire concept of free speech as a protected right only exists when there are no forces bent upon restricting those rights. The idea that you can be sent to prison for 'aggravated' expression or stirring up dissent is the norm through their history, countless examples of it. How much of the protestant/catholic wars had populations learning to either keep their heads down and not make trouble or get them lopped off? Of course, sometimes they were actively hunted as exposed for their beliefs even if the avoided outward expression, and that's the next logical step, hunting down wrongthinkers.
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Mar 19 2024 02:22pm
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The American founding father's vision of free speech is an absolute outlier in the history of the world. Western Europe like the rest of the world has no engrained cultural tradition of free expression, it was imposed upon them in the aftermath of WW2 and never rooted, only a superficial window dressing when times make it convenient. After all, the entire concept of free speech as a protected right only exists when there are no forces bent upon restricting those rights. The idea that you can be sent to prison for 'aggravated' expression or stirring up dissent is the norm through their history, countless examples of it. How much of the protestant/catholic wars had populations learning to either keep their heads down and not make trouble or get them lopped off? Of course, sometimes they were actively hunted as exposed for their beliefs even if the avoided outward expression, and that's the next logical step, hunting down wrongthinkers.


It's not the first time when the rest of the world is more reasonable in something that the US.

The US is teaching us that all "free" things are basically misused and bad. "Free" market leads people to ruin, "free" speech is misinterpreted as a permission to attack others and encourage hatred towards others. No such thing as a "free" beer, sadly.
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Mar 19 2024 02:39pm
Quote (Ashirgo @ Mar 19 2024 01:19pm)
I'm not watching any videos, ever, you got a TLDR perhaps? :)


nope
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Mar 19 2024 02:40pm
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It's not the first time when the rest of the world is more reasonable in something that the US.

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The US is teaching us that all "free" things are basically misused and bad. "Free" market leads people to ruin, "free" speech is misinterpreted as a permission to attack others and encourage hatred towards others. No such thing as a "free" beer, sadly.


this guy thinks "free" speech means you get to talk for free $
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Mar 19 2024 02:44pm
Quote (Ashirgo @ Mar 19 2024 03:17pm)
According to the article, you are still allowed to post and discuss your beliefs under the new law. Apparently you can't try to harm others in the process. Is it so bad?


It's a BBC article, so expect spin/lies.
But it said they can now arrest actors in plays written by long dead playwrights if found offensive by...anyone...

Also, that fake PM is not now or ever will be Scottish.
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Mar 19 2024 03:02pm
Wahhh I can't say hateful and violent shit online without consequences anymore wahhhh
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