I was in a conversation with someone, and he mentioned spying on people through satellite images. It was quite interesting, so I looked up the FBI in Google. And turns out, they probably don't have the money to run enough satellites to watch everybody in the country, however, they can go through your postal mail, spy on your internet activities, tap your landline (which they technically need a warrant for, but apparently it's very easy for the FBi to obtain), enter your house without you knowing and planting some kind of device to record your conversations.

Im just wondering how true all this is. It seems like feds like the FBI really has too much power over average people.

Have you never heard of Edward Snowden? You’re massively late to the party but it’s nice to see people opening their eyes.

They can do alot of stuff to spy on you if they want to, however the truth is most people just aren't significant enough to care about, you have to be a political dissident with strong reach

your phone is a spy device.
so are all the cameras hooked up to the internet? (even doorbell cameras)
and siri /alexa.

feds dont have to do chit , people install their own spy devices for them

Money was never the issue from the inception of the internet itself which was a DARPA(US Government) project to create a means to communicate "scientific data" from country to country.

This is why you see in the two founders of Google that they were given money from DARPA basically to create a means of social experimentation with that. All these big tech companies were given the "keys" from the government and collected ALL the data. Not some. Not any percent. All of it. All of it backed up to the HUGE server farms you can see until this very day.

When I was a teenager and started using Google I never EVER thought that the company was giving all my "clicks" and everyone else's "clicks" / "searches" to the government and meta-mining that data with advanced algorithms.







+1 don't forget the newer fridges/dishwashers/washing machines either






+1 It's pretty much this and that's why a lot of Americans are complacent on the issue because "I got nothing to hide from the government let em spy on me" but they do it and have done it anyway without your permission and that's why the big tech companies have been sued in places like Illinois I've gotten a check from Meta(Facebook then) and Google for using my data without my permission. Small checks and pennies to tech titans but at least some semblance of responsibility.

Anything that is connected to the internet can be used to spy on you. Lots of smart devices you use (IOT lamps, pet feeders, etc) never get updated and contain numerous exploits that allow motivated parties turn them against you.

Do read up on Snowden's revelations - he has posted quite interesting stuff, there are a lot of youtube opsec videos going over his leak in-depth. I especially enjoyed the part where NSA was trying to solve a problem of breaching airgapped networks of Iranian nuclear program (physically disconnected from the internet) without using physical access to the site via USBs and such. It really makes you think how far methods of systems like Pegasus have evolved since Snowdens leaks.

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'everything getting hooked up to the net

+1 I'd also suggest watching some content related to Snowden. You can also research William Binny and Julian Assange. You may be aware of Wikileaks but unless you transferred all of that incriminating documentation he put out onto an external hard drive you can no longer obtain the "full file".

When I opened that and started to see how deep it went I immediately put it on an external hard drive and then I shared it by email to close friends and family. The "creepy" part you may ask? In less then a few HOURS after it was released they had already WIPED CLEAN %50+ of what was originally there and ALL of what they removed was the most INCRIMINATING government documents and "mystery school" "manuals" for organizations such as the Rosicrucian's and Free Mason's. That was the "red line" in the sand for me. Because when I saw what my friends and family received basically HALF of what was in that original file upload. Then when I showed them my hard drive they couldn't believe it either.

This is why Assange was on the run just like Snowden looking for Asylum in foreign countries because they "technically" shared state secrets. Both of these individuals were "accused" of lude sex acts despite total lack of evidence.

Another part that I personally can attest too is that Barack Obama is openly Rosicrucian. I'm from Chicago(where Obama rose to political prestige) and I've been to the AMORC(Ancient and Mystic Order of the Rosy Cross) which is located in Illinois. As a member of the Vivekananda Vedanta Society(Hindu mystery school) I had already been considering "becoming" a Rosicrucian becaude I was fascinated by all of it's prestigious members and it's mystique. When I opened that file Assange had placed the "Rosicrucian manuals" at the top of the file itself. I spent days going over it and learning about the "Order" without becoming innitiated so when I saw Obama going totally out of his way to capture Assange I knew it was "personal" not just "political". Rosicrucians basically practice "black/white magic" and it's roots go all the way back to the "Ancient Egyptian Mystery Schools". I perosnally think that's what "did him in" and why when he was being dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy he was LITERALLY digging his nails into concrete pretty much knowing he was about to be "tortured" by the US government.

William Binney was an interesting figure as well and I'll share some of Wikipedia's comments about him and I'll start by saying look into the "TIA" "Total Information Awareness" program run by the DOD on Wikipedia as well. Just reading about that program and what Binney himself attested too you should be able to connect some interesting dots.

Total Information Awareness (TIA) was a mass detection program[clarification needed] by the United States Information Awareness Office. It operated under this title from February to May 2003 before being renamed Terrorism Information Awareness.[1][2]

Based on the concept of predictive policing, TIA was meant to correlate detailed information about people in order to anticipate and prevent terrorist incidents before execution.[3] The program modeled specific information sets in the hunt for terrorists around the globe.[4] Admiral John Poindexter called it a "Manhattan Project for counter-terrorism".[5] According to Senator Ron Wyden, TIA was the "biggest surveillance program in the history of the United States".[6]

Congress defunded the Information Awareness Office in late 2003 after media reports criticized the government for attempting to establish "Total Information Awareness" over all citizens.[7][8][9]

Although the program was formally suspended, other government agencies later adopted some of its software with only superficial changes. TIA's core architecture continued development under the code name "Basketball". According to a 2012 New York Times article, TIA's legacy was "quietly thriving" at the National Security Agency (NSA).[10]

William "Bill" Edward Binney (born September 1943)[4] is a former intelligence official with the United States National Security Agency (NSA)[5] and whistleblower. He retired on October 31, 2001, after more than 30 years with the agency.

He was a critic of his former employers during the George W. Bush administration, and later criticized the NSA's data-collection policies during the Barack Obama administration. He dissented from the view that Russia interfered with the 2016 US election. More specifically, he was critical of the view that Russia hacked the DNC server.[6]

In September 2002, he, along with J. Kirk Wiebe and Edward Loomis, asked the U.S. Defense Department Inspector General (DoD IG) to investigate the NSA for allegedly wasting "millions and millions of dollars" on Trailblazer, a system intended to analyze mass collection of data carried on communications networks such as the Internet. Binney had been one of the inventors of an alternative system, ThinThread, which was shelved when Trailblazer was chosen instead. Binney has also been publicly critical of the NSA for spying on U.S. citizens, saying of its expanded surveillance after the September 11, 2001 attacks that "it's better than anything that the KGB, the Stasi, or the Gestapo and SS ever had"[12] as well as noting Trailblazer's ineffectiveness and unjustified high cost compared to the far less intrusive ThinThread.[13] He was furious that the NSA hadn't uncovered the 9/11 plot and stated that intercepts it had collected but not analyzed likely would have garnered timely attention with his leaner more focused system.[10

Binney is known for making the claim that the NSA collects and stores information about every U.S. communication.[18] Binney was invited as a witness by the NSA commission of the German Bundestag. On July 3, 2014 Der Spiegel wrote, he said that the NSA wanted to have information about everything. In Binney's view this is a totalitarian approach, which had previously been seen only in dictatorships.[19] Binney stated that the goal was to control people. Meanwhile, he said that it is possible in principle to monitor the whole population, abroad and in the U.S., which in his view contradicts the United States Constitution.[19]

In August 2014, Binney was among the signatories of an open letter by the group Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity to German chancellor Angela Merkel in which they urged the Chancellor to be suspicious of U.S. intelligence regarding the alleged invasion by Russia in Eastern Ukraine.[20][21][22] In the open letter, the group said:

[A]ccusations of a major Russian "invasion" of Ukraine appear not to be supported by reliable intelligence. Rather, the "intelligence" seems to be of the same dubious, politically "fixed" kind used 12 years ago to "justify" the U.S.-led attack on Iraq.[21]

2005 called, it wants its news back.

Ehmm.. today they don't even need the man power. Ai/software can mass spy in people through their phones, mics, cameras, laptops, google accounts, internet activity, cameras in the streets, in the/some stores, buses & trains, electronic purchases, and categorize you, your friends, family, aquaintances, flag words/behaviors/opinions, predict, see what expressed thoughts you got on this or that, see what channels you watch, videos, etc, the party you're likely to vote for if at all, and so forth... If not now, very soon coming.

I still sometimes see people writing stuff like "they don't have the man power to sit and listen in on everyone" well wakey wakey, they don't need to with the software/ai capabilities today and it is rapidly improving.

And some sheeple are begging for more of it, electronic currency, digital id, more mass surveillance, social credit scores (like the vaccine passports, or the planned WEF carbon credit scores, or the point system of china) for "the greater good, public safety" "we got nothing to hide" etc. Not a single thought in their head of who will watch them, their family etc, or who will be in positions of power in 20 years.

That said I don't even use vpn... I know not smart but I don't care. False authority can **** off. This all said, there's more to it, and not all of it is bad either.. but people are way too tame & domesticated.... Too much trust in the good of the "elite" corporations, investment groups, banks, governments and the people trying to "run" things. Some of who I'm sure are good, some of who I'm sure are really bad.

This post was edited by TidsL on Dec 8 2023 03:28pm