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Nov 12 2023 10:51am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12739955/Chicago-unpleasant-migrants-fleeing-Venezuela-shelters.html

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2023/11/10/pritzker-presses-biden-on-migrants-00126557


Notables from the 1st article

-Venezuelan family received $15,000 over a 6 month period just for getting up to Chicago but "couldn't make it work"

-"There's nothing here for US"

-"The American dream doesn't exist anymore"

-"Many residents expressed frustration about the millions of dollars the city was spending on migrant shelters instead of Chicago's most impoverished communities."

As someone who lives very close to Chicago I've seen these families just standing at random corners "totally lost". It's no surprise to them now that they were LIED too by the likes of Joe Biden and his gang of democrackhead buddies.

Maybe Chicago should've given 15 grand to homeless veterans or homeless people in general. Maybe should've helped out Chicago's most impoverished communities as stated above?

If you were given 15 grand could you find any old run-of-the-mill job and make it work in 6 months or less?

Notables from the 2nd article

-Governor J.B Pritzker begs Joe Biden to do something about all the migrants who will likely die in the cold winter if they don't go to a warmer state or back to their country of origin

If you are for all the immigration why not let these people into your home for a while?

Chicago is 95% democrats who love immigrants so what's the big problem?

If you are pro-immigration in the United States why don't other countries like China/Saudia Arabia take in immigrants?

Questions to ponder

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Nov 12 2023 10:52am
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Nov 12 2023 11:06am
The american dream exists, its just not as plentiful as stories make it out to be. Plus, cities are already established. There are many towns and neighborhoods that are growing that can easily take more population. But the way immigration is currently happening is just not plausible. People need to come with skills and have learned passable English… the government is toxic for doing it this way. Either do it right or not at all. Supply trade education and secondary English lessons… it might seem a lot but it provides natives jobs to teach these things, too. The government forgets that it is supposed to build infrastructure for its citizens and sometimes tgat is metaphysical such as integration efforts

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Nov 12 2023 11:06am
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Nov 12 2023 11:12am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Nov 12 2023 10:51am)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12739955/Chicago-unpleasant-migrants-fleeing-Venezuela-shelters.html

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2023/11/10/pritzker-presses-biden-on-migrants-00126557


Notables from the 1st article

-Venezuelan family received $15,000 over a 6 month period just for getting up to Chicago but "couldn't make it work"

-"There's nothing here for US"

-"The American dream doesn't exist anymore"

-"Many residents expressed frustration about the millions of dollars the city was spending on migrant shelters instead of Chicago's most impoverished communities."

As someone who lives very close to Chicago I've seen these families just standing at random corners "totally lost". It's no surprise to them now that they were LIED too by the likes of Joe Biden and his gang of democrackhead buddies.

Maybe Chicago should've given 15 grand to homeless veterans or homeless people in general. Maybe should've helped out Chicago's most impoverished communities as stated above?

If you were given 15 grand could you find any old run-of-the-mill job and make it work in 6 months or less?

Notables from the 2nd article

-Governor J.B Pritzker begs Joe Biden to do something about all the migrants who will likely die in the cold winter if they don't go to a warmer state or back to their country of origin

If you are for all the immigration why not let these people into your home for a while?

Chicago is 95% democrats who love immigrants so what's the big problem?

If you are pro-immigration in the United States why don't other countries like China/Saudia Arabia take in immigrants?

Questions to ponder


If I was a migrant worker with 15-grand in Idaho, I could easily make that work in under a week. Theoretically, I'd buy a reliable vehicle, get a job, and rent an apartment. Realistically, I'd be forced to buy a car via private sale. Afterword's, I'd quickly find out that nobody would hire me (except under-the-table trash), no school would accept me, and nobody would rent to me. Ideally, I'd send the 15 grand to my family and continue doing things the way they have always been done.

If I was a migrant worker with 15-grand in Chicago, I could easily make that work in under a week. Theoretically, I'd buy a reliable vehicle, get a job, and find a place to live with roommates. Realistically, the sanctuary city laws should allow me to do that. Realistically, I would need to learn to read, write and speak English at a 5th grade level like the Average American. An employee who speaks English is acceptable for all businesses, a bilingual employee is a huge boon, and a non-English speaking employee is undesirable.

This post was edited by Superman on Nov 12 2023 11:14am
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Nov 12 2023 11:20am
Capitalism works for people who work.
The United States is one of very few countries where you can start dirt poor and rise to a wealthy status.

The reason I'm saying this is because 'Sanctuary Cities' give hand outs to people.
Being given free food, clothes and shelter. This doesn't promote work or the inspiration to achieve greater.

That's not a statement about the people, it's a statement about the system of sheltering people.

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edit: I can expand on this if anyone cares.

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Nov 12 2023 11:48am
Quote (Mondain @ 12 Nov 2023 12:20)
Capitalism works for people who work.
The United States is one of very few countries where you can start dirt poor and rise to a wealthy status.

The reason I'm saying this is because 'Sanctuary Cities' give hand outs to people.
Being given free food, clothes and shelter. This doesn't promote work or the inspiration to achieve greater.

That's not a statement about the people, it's a statement about the system of sheltering people.

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edit: I can expand on this if anyone cares.


The system is founded on helping people succeed.

Do you have any idea how much government Money Elon gets for his electric cars?

Do you have any idea how many people in congress had student loan forgiveness and government tax free loans to play with?

You see a poor person getting help and shake your head saying why is this country so fucked up.

You dont see all of the successful people having used those tools and opportunities to become successful talking about it so to you it doesnt exist

wake the fuck up
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Nov 12 2023 11:54am
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 12 2023 12:48pm)
The system is founded on helping people succeed.

Do you have any idea how much government Money Elon gets for his electric cars?

Do you have any idea how many people in congress had student loan forgiveness and government tax free loans to play with?

You see a poor person getting help and shake your head saying why is this country so fucked up.

You dont see all of the successful people having used those tools and opportunities to become successful talking about it so to you it doesnt exist

wake the fuck up


jesus crunkt, can you not just REEE at me for once.

First of all, these are illegal immigrants. They are trespassing on USA territory.
It's illegal for businesses to have them work. You may thank the IRS among other agencies.
They're not a poor person, they're illegally trespassing and being human traffic-ed deeper into the territory they're trespassing.
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Nov 12 2023 12:00pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 12 2023 11:20am)
Capitalism works for people who work.
The United States is one of very few countries where you can start dirt poor and rise to a wealthy status.

The reason I'm saying this is because 'Sanctuary Cities' give hand outs to people.
Being given free food, clothes and shelter. This doesn't promote work or the inspiration to achieve greater.

That's not a statement about the people, it's a statement about the system of sheltering people.

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edit: I can expand on this if anyone cares.


Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 applies to non-citizens so why is it legal for employers to have policies that ignore it?
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Nov 12 2023 12:04pm
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 12 2023 11:54am)
jesus crunkt, can you not just REEE at me for once.

First of all, these are illegal immigrants. They are trespassing on USA territory.
It's illegal for businesses to have them work. You may thank the IRS among other agencies.
They're not a poor person, they're illegally trespassing and being human traffic-ed deeper into the territory they're trespassing.


https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/questions-and-answers-enforcement-guidance-national-origin-discrimination#:~:text=Title%20VIIs%20protection%20against%20national,origin%20discrimination%20under%20Title%20VII%3F

It's illegal for businesses to refuse employment based on immigration status. However, a law that is not enforced is useless.
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Nov 12 2023 12:04pm
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You want to try running that by the IRS?
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Nov 12 2023 12:06pm
Quote (Mondain @ 12 Nov 2023 12:54)
jesus crunkt, can you not just REEE at me for once.

First of all, these are illegal immigrants. They are trespassing on USA territory.
It's illegal for businesses to have them work. You may thank the IRS among other agencies.
They're not a poor person, they're illegally trespassing and being human traffic-ed deeper into the territory they're trespassing.


What do these people have that you hate so much? Why do you seethe so hard over people COMING TO AMERICA to live a better life, isnt that a compliment?

Unless you are just self loathing that you never took advantage of the social programs available to you such as education and you hate everyone else that may have an opportunity and take more advantage of it thatn you did? Is that why ur so mad at Juan and Carlos who you never met will never meet and will never interact with
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