After reading up on this incident the supposed murder seems like the hero we all need on the subway when lunatics are trying to hurt people. The media keeps trying to make this guy out to be a villain for accidentally killing a mentally ill person with a history of hurting people.

What do our resident pardians make of this case?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mother-child-hid-behind-stroller-080041722.html
FIRST ON FOX: A mother and son hid behind a stroller and a high school student prayed as Jordan Neely yelled "someone is going to die today" before he was placed in a fatal chokehold inside a packed NYC subway train, new court papers revealed.

A woman described the erratic homeless man's demeanor on May 1 as "sickening" and "satanic." She allegedly said she believed she "was going to die" as Neely approached her and called the confrontation "absolutely traumatizing."

The details were disclosed publicly for the first time in a motion to dismiss the charges against Marine veteran Daniel Penny, who's accused of choking Neely to death in an effort to protect other passengers.

This was so obvious from the very beginning.

White people are bad, m’mkay???



This is why normal people hate democrat politicians. The police didn’t arrest the guy until pieces of shit like AOC went on the internet crying about lynching black people.

Then the same people cry about, “we have no power we are so oppressed” yet they can literally put a man on trial for fucking murder with one tweet.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Oct 28 2023 06:32pm

A person should be responsible when putting someone in that hold.
White guy just wanted an excuse to kill somebody.
100% guilty.

Is this like a knee on the neck for 8 minutes type of deal?

maybe he should have just let the mentally ill man kill someone right?

maybe not be a hero and save a mother and child right?

imo he was a hero until the guy went limp. he became a murderer when he kept choking the unconscious man. you have to restrict the blood flow to the head for quite a while after they go unconscious to actually kill them, so it's not like he just held on for one or two seconds after the threat was eliminated...

He deserved it

for any of you defending the guy who got slept, you're what's wrong with our society. the vet was literally trying to protect other passengers. he will walk free, and I guarantee you that he gets some kind of compensation as well, well deserved.

Yea because in that moment what you want to do is let go of a guy that threatened to kill someone and is about to become fully conscious in less then 20-30 seconds after letting go of that pressure.

He neutralized the threat and when your adrenaline is running you are going to maintain that hold. They weren't wrestling for fun he was subduing someone who said, "Someone is going to die today".

Luckily it was the guy making the threat who died and not the other people on the train.

Many people on P&RD have probably never been on a train in an inner city with homeless drugged up schizophrenic types who are either talking to themselves or YOU and basically taunting you with the exact rhetoric you see here.

Not even 3 months ago I was on a train in Chicago going to a baseball game and almost the exact scenario played out. Luckily I was with two friends(one who served in the military) but this guy kept saying, "I got a knife and I'm gonna slice" and all of us were totally on edge ready to fuck this guy up. Especially my buddy who served. He had his feet planted and was ready to spear this dude if he even reached into his pocket/wasteband. Same scenario would've played out...My buddy who has PTSD from being in an IED blast in Iraq would've been the "bad guy" because he's white and the guy talking about his knife was black.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 29 2023 09:14am

shows how entirely ignorant you are - of the specific situation and the topic in general. you can still keep full control of a person once they go limp, even keep them in a rear naked choke position if you feel threatened still, without applying the force required to actually interrupt the blood flow to their head. not only that, there were several other people who helped control that guy once our "hero" took the initiative. the notion that he would suddenly wake up, instantly gather his bearings, easily overwhelm at least three grown men, magically conjure up a knife or gun, and start killing people, is absurd.

again, i don't have a problem with him getting physical first - if the threats the other dude made were real and believable. that said, he clearly knew what he was doing. he wasn't just defending himself after being attacked and fighting for his own life (in which case i would maybe buy into the "adrenaline made me hold on for long after the guy went out" excuse) - no, he made a conscious decision and felt confident enough to engage and overwhelm the guy, which he clearly succeeded in.