the wealthy own billions of money while there are people starving and dying in the streets. Yet when I suggest we take a little bit of the former's wealth to help the latter survive, I get called a commie.

Take Trump's son-in-law, Kushner for an example. His family owns over 2000 properties. I think it's totally wrong that one single family gets to wield so much wealth. I mean, how many houses does one family need? I can see that if someone is rich and he wants to have like a few vacation properties. But 2000 properties is bullshit. Nobody should own that much wealth. I feel that we should re-organize our society such that wealth and resources aren't super-concentrated in the hands of just a few billionaires. I am sure there is a way to do this without going full-blown communist. Like maybe we can put a hard cap on how much total wealth any given entity can own, say 70 million dollars. 70 million is already a lot of money, people can live very comfortably on it without having to work.

So what do you think of the phenomenon where there are people who can't afford housing, healthcare, or even food, while the rich sit on billions of dollars?

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 26 2023 09:48am

that's what happens when the rich are in complete control of the media, and successfully brainwashed people into believing that any kind of social programs or rights for the working class somehow immediately leads to starvation and economic devastation. the red scare and subsequent propaganda operations helped turn america into the oligarchy it is today, in which a large part of the poor and working class reject policies that would benefit them, solely based on some myth they grew up with, perpetuated by empty talking heads on tv and their billionaire owners...

Most people are in favour of improving their lives but when you propose tried and failed robinhood ideas like take from the rich and give to the poor its like you are saying hey why don't we try this idea again that leaves everyone starving. It's a non solution.

I think putting a cap of $70m is an interesting proposal but there are work arounds and greed/power will find its way to tip the scales of inequality.

What you could focus on is the root causes like monetary reforms and introduce concepts like complete financial transparency.

To all the people who say, everyone should be taxed evenly/fairly.

How Many Jobs Do You Produce?

How Many Jobs Do Billionaires Produce.

This post was edited by Mondain on Aug 26 2023 04:36pm

The real creator of jobs is the middle class, with their need for goods and services.

If billionaires and their corporations all disappeared tomorrow, they would simply be replaced by small businesses, which can produce jobs just as well as the former.

You ever heard of amazon for starters?

small businesses don't have the logistics for such an operation.

Some people would suicide if their way of life changed that much.

This post was edited by Mondain on Aug 26 2023 04:45pm

What about amazon?

it's a billion dollar corperation that produces thousands of jobs.

ps. did JessiWan sell their forum account?
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=101709577&f=27

Use to be super politically right, now posting politically left material.

This post was edited by Mondain on Aug 26 2023 04:47pm

I know that. And I am saying that if it disappeared tomorrow, life would still go on. The void left in the market would simply be filled by small businesses. In fact, this is preferable, as wealth would be less concentrated in one huge company.

I don't understand these people who kiss billionaires' and corporations' asses. They talk as if these entities do society such a huge favor.

One single small business indeed does not have the logistics to produce thousands of jobs. However, if amazon was replaced by 100 small businesses who produce 10 jobs each, the result is that there are still 1000 jobs. And we would still enjoy a good quality of life, and would not be bothered by the disappearance of amazon at all. This has another bonus that we would be spreading wealth among more people. We would be enriching 100 business owners instead of just one. 100 business owners who own 1 million dollars each is more fair, equitable and desirable than one person owning 100 million dollars.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Aug 26 2023 05:04pm