What do you think? Good idea or bad?

Personally, I feel that as technologies advance, more and more people should be freed from working. And we should have more and more of our needs met simply by virtue of being human. The wealth that is generated through the advancement of technology should be more equally shared among all humans, it shouldn't be concentrated in the hands of a few capitalists and mega-billionaires.

That said, I feel that people shouldn't get money, because this could cause inflation. Instead, I think governments should start purchasing agricultural lands, farm them to produce food, and then give said food to all the citizens. This would be one good way to start implementing something similar to universal basic income.

Your thoughts?

I think universal basic taxes would be a better option

Every individual should pay the exact same % tax on their income. Every business should pay the exact same % business tax

Get rid of filing taxes/tax returns completely. That, in turn, would eliminate loopholes in the tax system, which are exploited by capitalists and mega billionaires.

Terribad. Ultra commie you might aswell jump off the bridge right now bad.

Two words "no incentive".

Pretty sure it has been tried before. A small state or city should trial it to see the effects over 10 year period. My guess is by year 3 there are massive riots and people are starving.
Better option is to get rid of the fed and reverse fractional reserve banking. Also cut the national defence budget by 70% and implement strict oversight for government spending. Watch our lives improve drastically.

This post was edited by addone on Aug 25 2023 11:58pm

why stop at food? what about housing, education and healthcare ?

There's a reason why experienced farmers are successful. Giving farmland to randoms who's main source of sustenance is derived from Starbucks is probably a bad idea.
They tried collectivism multiple times. Probably a total 50 million peoplen starved to death. At a time where the global population was factors lower than what it is today.

In theory this is great. In practice this would cause rampant inflation and zero incentive for people thatbare already disillusioned.
Is there a better way than the current system? Probably. Is UBI it? Probably not.

If you want to improve the current system then go after the broken housing markets.
Populations increase but a lack of new homes creates scarcity and increases the value of existing property.
This becomes a cycle and leads to greater wealth inequality.
Governments are shit scared of addressing this because home owners tend to vote and no politician wants to reside over the housing market collapsing.
They have an unwritten contract with voters to maintain their property values and voters basically go along with governments shit performance and whatever bullshit they pull.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Aug 26 2023 05:43am

People always mention deaths under Mao but always forget that the total population growth in his time as leader was 400 million people.
And he pulled more people out of poverty than capitalism would ever be able to.

Highly debatable. Also I'd argue the 30million 40-80 million dead through Maos failed policies deserve a mention.



This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Aug 26 2023 06:37am

It's really not alot of money for a developped country, and it can prevent -alot- of problems.
The real question is more around the people themselves, like structures and infrastructires providing them culture, motivation, goal...
As simple as that. And this costs more than the UBI itself.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Aug 26 2023 06:46am

i think the leftie frauds have it right. that the elite rich whyties should have all the power and all the money and never be questioned. then promise us stuff (like student loan forgiveness) and never come through but still retain unending loyalty while REEEEing bout some orange dude and if any one tries to break the cycle run into the streets screaming, Burning Looting and Murdering

Yes let’s trust the government to farm our food for us. Please government I need more vaccines you haven’t injected enough experimental medicines into me yet I’m still alive