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Jun 27 2023 07:58am
Todays the day the supreme court does its big dump of important cases
10 decisions should come down today (or some tomorrow), and one of them is affirmative action

* Biden's student loan mandate (Biden v Nebraska // DoE v Brown)
* Affirmative Action (Students for Fair Admissions v. President and Fellows of Harvard College and Students for Fair Admissions v. University of North Carolina)
* Same Sex wedding website (the baker case again, this time applied to web designers: 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis)
* North Carolina congressional map ala Independent State Legislature: Moore v. Harper.
* Sunday religious observation at USPS (Groff v DeJoy)
* Stalking vs First Amendment on definition of 'true threats' and intent vs interpretation (Counterman v Colorado)
* some technical shit about jurisdiction grabbing state laws (Mallory v. Norfolk Southern Railway Co)
* Limits of overseas copyright enforcement (Abitron Austria GmbH v. Hetronic International Inc)

rest idk google them yourself or wait for it to get decided in a few minutes as of this post
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Jun 27 2023 08:03am
No chance they allow the student loan payout, imo.

affirmative action may very well be gone, honestly not needed as much in today's "diversity hire" climate but could cause niche issues.

same sex "you must serve us" case applied to online seems crazy, alternatives are so plentiful digitally idk how u can assert any sort of necessity for service.

NC map, god i pray gerrymandering gets kneecapped. pathetic practice all around.

USPS case = mail on sundays now? cool if so, but who the fuck cares?

rest idc/idk

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 27 2023 08:03am
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Jun 27 2023 08:07am
First decision was Norfolk Southern. A 5-4 decision where liberals and conservatives are on both sides, court sided with the railway but didn't grant them the extra protection they wanted. Essentially it was about an employee who lives in Virginia and works in Virginia, at a railroad headquartered in Virginia, suing them in a Pennsylvania court, because in order to operate their railroad in PA they had to submit to a clause saying PA courts had jurisdiction over them everywhere. Supreme court ruled the PA jurisdiction grabbing clause is unconstitutional for violating due process.

Next decision is the stalking one. The court ruled 7-2 that 'true threats' can be defined by a lower standard of proving reckless disregard- 'conscious disregard of substantial risk a post would be interpreted as a threat', instead of proving that a post was intended as a threat. The issue was where to draw the distinction between protected speech and threats, the technical proof necessary to convict someone. So even if someone doesn't intend something as a threat, and the prosecutors can't prove it, if its still obviously easily interpreted as a threat and you'd have to consciously post it knowing that it will be interpreted as a threat, its a threat. Guy being prosecuted in the underlying case gets a new trial with the new standard, but its not the one he wanted. Coney Barrett + Thomas in dissent

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Held: The State must prove in true-threats cases that the defendant had
some subjective understanding of his statements’ threatening nature,
but the First Amendment requires no more demanding a showing than
recklessness.


Moore v Harper is out and fuck if I know or care about north carolina's technicalities
and only 3 today, 7 remaining, scotus doesn't go past this week, could be super wednesday instead. Its the race quotas + biden bucks tomorrow that anyone really cares about

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 27 2023 08:14am
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Jun 27 2023 08:13am
Thank you for the great thread/summary of events!
Will be following
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Jun 27 2023 08:27am
Groff v DeJoy seems interesting.
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Jun 27 2023 09:09am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 27 2023 07:03am)
No chance they allow the student loan payout, imo.

affirmative action may very well be gone, honestly not needed as much in today's "diversity hire" climate but could cause niche issues.

same sex "you must serve us" case applied to online seems crazy, alternatives are so plentiful digitally idk how u can assert any sort of necessity for service.

NC map, god i pray gerrymandering gets kneecapped. pathetic practice all around.

USPS case = mail on sundays now? cool if so, but who the fuck cares?

rest idc/idk


Affirmative action is just straight racism, it's fantastic that people are waking up to the injustice of it
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Jun 27 2023 09:11am
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Affirmative action is just straight racism, it's fantastic that people are waking up to the injustice of it


sometimes to put out a fire you need a bomb.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 27 2023 08:11am)
sometimes to put out a fire you need a bomb.


I think people just need to treat each other as equals or else the cycle of racism continues
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Jun 27 2023 09:22am
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I think people just need to treat each other as equals or else the cycle of racism continues


the cycle of racism will never end, except MAYBE one day when all of human kind is interbred enough that skin color doesnt vary enough to bother a distinction socially. then we'll just find another reason to "other" groups of people. as we do currently in homogenized populations, southside vs northside, different supporters of soccer clubs, italians vs greeks, shiite vs sunnis, etc.

skin color is just a convenient visually apparent "other", but that nature is inside of us.

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Jun 27 2023 09:36am
Quote (thesnipa @ 27 Jun 2023 11:22)
the cycle of racism will never end, except MAYBE one day when all of human kind is interbred enough that skin color doesnt vary enough to bother a distinction socially. then we'll just find another reason to "other" groups of people. as we do currently in homogenized populations, southside vs northside, different supporters of soccer clubs, italians vs greeks, shiite vs sunnis, etc.

skin color is just a convenient visually apparent "other", but that nature is inside of us.


Its so funny im in a softball league and on my team its basically all asians exept this one other white dude

now I barely know the guy, we barely talk, but I can feel the connection where its like yo we understand eachother. as ignorant as that thought ACTUALLY is I have now experienced what I imagine a lot of minorities experience when they find another countrymen/cultural other.. interesting feeling/interaction

LETS GO STUDENT LOAN RELIEF!! BIDEN! BIDEN! BIDEN!

This post was edited by Crunkt on Jun 27 2023 09:55am
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