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Apr 24 2023 01:47pm
Wanted to make a thread on the on-going court battles that have popped up ever since Roe v. Wade was overruled by the Supreme Court, with there now being two conflicting rulings in lower federal courts: One in Texas (Judge Matthew J. Kacsmaryk; Trump appointee) and one of an opposing opinion in Washington (Judge Thomas O. Rice; Obama appointee), with both decisions being made on the same day (April 7th, 2023). The Supreme Court ruled that the Texas ruling will be stayed (With Alito and Thomas dissenting), and so now it continues to the 5th Circuit. The Washington ruling stated that the FDA could not make changes to the accessibility of Mifepristone in the 17 Democrat-leaning states (and D.C) that applied as part of the complaint; however, the judge did not seek to expand access and ruled to keep things as-is. As a result, there are conflicting injunctions within the lower federal courts.

Mifepristone (Also known as Mifeprex) was approved in 2000 by the FDA and is now the most-commonly used method of abortion in the United States (when combined with Misoprostal), with the Guttmacher Institute estimating that ~50% of all abortions that occur in the US being medication abortions via this combination. Currently, Mifepristone is approved for use up to 10-weeks after a missed period and has a ~97% efficacy. Since 2000, the FDA has increasingly laxed its regulation of Mifepristone, which used to only be able to be prescribed by licensed physicians (ie. Not available in retail pharmacy; has to be a licensed physician, and in some states, said physician had to be physically present when the patient was taking the medication). As time went on, the FDA allowed Mifepristone to be available via more broadly defined medical practitioners outside just licensed physicians AND increased the window of usage from 7-weeks to 10-weeks gestation (2016), allowed access via mail (2021), and allowed access in retail pharmacies approved by the manufacturer (2023). The FDA has been able to make these adjustments via their Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy (REMS) that they use for ~61 medications--Mifepristone being one of them: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/rems/Mifepristone_2023_03_23_REMS_Document.pdf

This is primarily where the Texas case, Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v. FDA, came into the picture. The plaintiff, Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, formed in 2022 in Texas and describes itself as "Upholding and promoting the fundamental principles of Hippocratic medicine, which include protecting the vulnerable at the beginning and end of life": https://allianceforhippocraticmedicine.org/

The AHM argued three main points, 1) That the FDA was reckless in its approval of Mifepristone back in 2000 and that it should subsequently be taken off the market, that 2) The FDA has exceeded its authority by utilizing the REMS system to make Mifepristone more accessible over the years, and that 3) The approval of Mifepristone to be available via mail is in violation of the Comstack Act of 1873. Judge Kacsmaryk ruled in favor of the AHM, but delayed enforcement of his own ruling to allow the FDA to apply for emergency relief--which they of course did. The case now heads to the 5th Circuit on accelerated docket (Argument begins May 17th) and currently Mifepristone remains available in accordance to state law.



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Apr 24 2023 01:59pm
with the war on plan B we're slowly getting to a place where ideologically pro lifers will be forced to condemn birth control. anything that stops sperm from finding eggs is a crime against god and nature.

issues with FDA behavior are really just anger that pro choice people found a fairly non-violent way to abort babies, they really liked their bloody vacuum snuff films to shame women not ready to be mothers.

now they just take a pill and pass a 3/8" long baby with their next period without even noticing.
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Apr 24 2023 02:04pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 24 2023 12:59pm)
with the war on plan B we're slowly getting to a place where ideologically pro lifers will be forced to condemn birth control. anything that stops sperm from finding eggs is a crime against god and nature.

issues with FDA behavior are really just anger that pro choice people found a fairly non-violent way to abort babies, they really liked their bloody vacuum snuff films to shame women not ready to be mothers.

now they just take a pill and pass a 3/8" long baby with their next period without even noticing.


That has always been a point of interest for me, given that an abundance of "potential life" exists around us at all times as we all walk around with sperm and eggs. The fact that we're not procreating 24/7 and attempting to maximize the amount of potential life that we bring into the world means that birth control, philosophically, is an ingrained part of human existence.
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Apr 24 2023 02:11pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 24 2023 03:04pm)
That has always been a point of interest for me, given that an abundance of "potential life" exists around us at all times as we all walk around with sperm and eggs. The fact that we're not procreating 24/7 and attempting to maximize the amount of potential life that we bring into the world means that birth control, philosophically, is an ingrained part of human existence.


birth control precedes Christianity. but if you point this out theists chalk that up to humans being immoral heathens before Jesus saved us.

the venn diagram between people concerned about the rise of minority percent of the population and people who are pro life is so oddly overlapped. they'll weave between scared the white race is going to lose it's majority, and forcing minorities to give birth to raucous cheers. so odd.
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Apr 24 2023 02:28pm
right wing populists have increased their reliance on religious views to support their political ideas recently which is not persuasive to those who do not subscribe to those religious views, abortion being a major one.
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Apr 24 2023 05:16pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 24 2023 01:11pm)
birth control precedes Christianity. but if you point this out theists chalk that up to humans being immoral heathens before Jesus saved us.

the venn diagram between people concerned about the rise of minority percent of the population and people who are pro life is so oddly overlapped. they'll weave between scared the white race is going to lose it's majority, and forcing minorities to give birth to raucous cheers. so odd.


If White Christians are worried about being or becoming a minority, then it must mean that minorities aren't treated very well. Huh.

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right wing populists have increased their reliance on religious views to support their political ideas recently which is not persuasive to those who do not subscribe to those religious views, abortion being a major one.


Which is such an odd strategy. I wonder why the Right doesn't realize that it is losing out on young voters by a wide margin.
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Apr 24 2023 08:40pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 24 2023 06:16pm)
If White Christians are worried about being or becoming a minority, then it must mean that minorities aren't treated very well. Huh.



Which is such an odd strategy. I wonder why the Right doesn't realize that it is losing out on young voters by a wide margin.


Don't use logic. It confuses the right.

Do you have any memes about hunter biden's laptop or trans people? That usually gets their copium going... They'll need it since one of their gods have been kicked off Fox for being too extreme, lol.
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Quote (Pyrotechx @ Apr 24 2023 07:40pm)
Don't use logic. It confuses the right.

Do you have any memes about hunter biden's laptop or trans people? That usually gets their copium going... They'll need it since one of their gods have been kicked off Fox for being too extreme, lol.


We shall see if anything manifests in this thread. Anything longer than a sentence or a YouTube video is DOA in PaRD.
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Apr 24 2023 08:46pm


The time for birth control is BEFORE you take your clothes off, no afterwards.
It ain't rocket science folks. ^^
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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 24 2023 09:46pm)
The time for birth control is BEFORE you take your clothes off, no afterwards.
It ain't rocket science folks. ^^


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