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Mar 20 2023 08:09pm
Hello. I was arguing with another member here about whether racism was morally wrong. I said that it wasn't, and he said that it was. So I want to say something to settle it once and for all.

Throughout much of white people's evolutionary history, they were isolated from other races. They only had contact with other whites. And since they didn't even know about the other races, racism couldn't have been a thing. And if such is the case, then the morality that racism is wrong, could not have not evolved, either. I mean, how can you evolve morality towards something you didn't even know existed? Therefore, it is natural for white people to not feel that racism is wrong. Furthermore, people who maintain that racism is wrong have to defend their position. And it is up to them to prove to the rest of us how racism should be wrong. It is not up to the rest of us to prove to them that racism is not wrong.
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Mar 20 2023 08:17pm
Racism is amoral.
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Mar 20 2023 08:18pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 21 Mar 2023 10:09)
Hello. I was arguing with another member here about whether racism was morally wrong. I said that it wasn't, and he said that it was. So I want to say something to settle it once and for all.

Throughout much of white people's evolutionary history, they were isolated from other races. They only had contact with other whites. And since they didn't even know about the other races, racism couldn't have been a thing. And if such is the case, then the morality that racism is wrong, could not have not evolved, either. I mean, how can you evolve morality towards something you didn't even know existed? Therefore, it is natural for white people to not feel that racism is wrong. Furthermore, people who maintain that racism is wrong have to defend their position. And it is up to them to prove to the rest of us how racism should be wrong. It is not up to the rest of us to prove to them that racism is not wrong.


Racism is not endemic to white people. Anyone and everyone despite the color of your skin , culture, creed and religion can be a racist.
Furthermore , it is natural for a group of people who have been nurtured in a homogeneous society for long periods of time to feel " threaten " when they start seeing another human being who looks different and have different cultural practice towards them.

But you have to define racism further as to what is right and what is wrong. And also "Racism" as the term is being coined have a negative connotation in our day and age.
Maybe expand the term further.
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Mar 20 2023 08:20pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 20 2023 07:18pm)
Anyone and everyone despite the color of your skin , culture, creed and religion can be a racist.


Maybe this is because racism is a normal part of human nature.
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Mar 20 2023 08:22pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 21 Mar 2023 10:20)
Maybe this is because racism is a normal part of human nature.


It is normal, because of fear.
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Mar 20 2023 08:23pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 20 2023 09:20pm)
Maybe this is because racism is a normal part of nature.


"Birds of a feather"... You know how it goes.
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Mar 20 2023 08:26pm
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It is normal, because of fear.


I don't care to hear how you psychoanalyse racists. I just want to hear you say "racism is normal".
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Mar 20 2023 08:32pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 21 Mar 2023 10:26)
I don't care to hear how you psychoanalyse racists. I just want to hear you say "racism is normal".


You are not specific enough because if you say it is normal you will be alluding that even to the extreme end it is normal.

" Racism " if being practiced to a point where you decimate an entire race because they don't look like you is not normal.

" Racism " if being put in a context where you fear and reject people who do not look , speak and practice the same habits as you do is pretty normal. It is a worldwide phenomenon.

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Mar 20 2023 08:38pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 20 2023 07:32pm)

" Racism " if being practiced to a point where you decimate an entire race because they don't look like you is not normal.


That's called genocide. It might be caused by racism, but it itself is not racism.

You don't know what you are talking about.
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Mar 20 2023 08:42pm
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That's called genocide. It might be caused by racism, but it itself is not racism.

You don't know what you are talking about.


well you just said it is caused by racism and you asked me if it is normal. In that context I do not think it is normal. You just answered your own question.
If you want to debate in good faith you have to be more specific about your topic because racism although a very negative and touchy topic can be very deep.
It is a topic often overlooked with negative connotations , but at the end of the day there are very real and at times pragmatic reasons for it to be " normal " in your sense.
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