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Mar 20 2023 01:28pm
To USA's invasion of Iraq due and to "weapons of mass deatruction" and countless terroristic attacks on Iraq which resulted in 100 000+ dead civilians.

Here's for many more terroristic operations and dead civilians which will be blamed on someone else over and over again in future :thumbsup:
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Mar 20 2023 01:56pm
Spreading freedom one place at a time.
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Mar 20 2023 03:26pm
100K dead civilians and no one cares

Meanwhile the ICC issued an arrest warrant for the Russian president because Ukrainian kids were brought to Russia unlawfully

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Mar 20 2023 03:34pm
100k?

are we handing out discounts here? ^_^
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Mar 20 2023 04:19pm
How many Iraqis, Iranians and Kuwaitis did Saddam kill, again?
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Mar 20 2023 04:35pm
Quote (dro94 @ Mar 21 2023 12:19am)
How many Iraqis, Iranians and Kuwaitis did Saddam kill, again?


I know what youre getting at but the same narrative is being pushed by Russia about "Ukrainian neo-nazis and fascists". A good deal of Russians are fanatic about how they defeated fascism as a nation, so much so that they will be ready to do anything under the guise of combatting fascism.

I'm more inclined to believe the Iraq war was a mistke, and the war in Ukraine made me feel that it wasnt maybe justified at all after all. I dont know the exact geopolitical developments behind the Iraq war so i may have a skewed view on it , but war is war nevertheless.
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Mar 20 2023 04:40pm
thanks obama
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Mar 20 2023 04:45pm
Quote (Neptunus @ Mar 20 2023 10:35pm)
I know what youre getting at but the same narrative is being pushed by Russia about "Ukrainian neo-nazis and fascists". A good deal of Russians are fanatic about how they defeated fascism as a nation, so much so that they will be ready to do anything under the guise of combatting fascism.

I'm more inclined to believe the Iraq war was a mistke, and the war in Ukraine made me feel that it wasnt maybe justified at all after all. I dont know the exact geopolitical developments behind the Iraq war so i may have a skewed view on it , but war is war nevertheless.


Both wars were a mistake. That doesn't mean you can't apply nuance
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Mar 20 2023 05:47pm
yeah, america is addicted to war and obtaining power, most americans are well yeah.....kinda terrible people
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Mar 21 2023 12:20am
Quote (dro94 @ Mar 21 2023 12:45am)
Both wars were a mistake. That doesn't mean you can't apply nuance


Didnt say you cant. Once you realise Russia pushes the exact same narrative in a mirrored fashion against Ukraine and the West, it leaves one perplexed and helpless when it comes to arguing for or against the recent wars. The divide between the West and Russia turns out to be bigger than we thought, and no amount of rational argumentation is gonna turn the pro-war Russians around. Theyll just call our arguments corrupt NATO lies, and the useful idiots in the West (like our local contrarians in PaRD) reinforce this view as "woke, anti-corrupt Westerners" from the point of view of Russians, and end up serving as propaganda that supports the Russian justification of the war in Ukraine.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Mar 21 2023 12:21am
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