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Mar 13 2023 06:29am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/13/trump-indictment-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels/

In our latest edition of thumping away at the flowers growing from the soil once watered with the meaty drippings of a horse beaten many ages past-

Prosecutors in New York are trying once again to stab Trump in the eye. Alvin Bragg is spearheading that effort, using forbidden thaumaturgical magic to reanimate the corpse of the stormy daniels scandal despite spending seven years under the earth.
So lets take a walk back in time and rehash the facts of the case

Trump paid stormy daniels $130k in hush money during the election, all paid from his private, non-campaign funded source. As the FEC head has explained, campaign funds must be used and reported for expenses that would not occur 'but for a campaign', whereas personal funds must be used- and need not be reported- for expenses that could happen without a campaign occurring. This doesn't reflect whether the intent of an expense is to influence an election, as that bar is subjective and impossible to determine, rather only the nexus of causality. The classical example is a haircut. Even an expensive haircut to make a candidate look photogenic during a debate, above their normal non-election routine, is still a personal expense. Because they'd get a haircut even without an election occurring. Per this rule, Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels could not legally use campaign funds, and if he had, he'd be on the hook for campaign finance abuse which carries a negligible fine (a few thousand backs usually) and paying back the amount, a trivial offense. But Trump did not use campaign funds, so he actually did it legally.
Prosecutors in the case however went after Michael Cohen, who was on the hook for other unrelated financial crimes, and had him dead to rights. They offered him a sweetheart deal, allowing him to plead guilty to the Storm Daniels payment as a crime in order to get a lenient sentence on the rest of it. A sort of 'murder, rape and jaywalking, plead to jaywalking' prosecution. So even though he could have taken that charge to trial and won since it was bogus, all the prosecutors had to do was find a judge willing to play ball. And they did.
Now seven years later, prosecutors want to go after Trump. But they don't want go after him on a negligible campaign finance charge with a measly fine, especially one that won't stick. So they're focusing in on "falsifying business records", because the payment was listed as "legal expenses". Which at best was a nebulous term for the hush money, but under the theory of it being a campaign expense would be a violation since it needed to be reported. But even that charge is another measly misdemeanor. So to have it stick, they want to go with "falsifying business records to cover up another crime", a felony. And the theory there is that campaign finance violation- which didn't actually exist in the first place- would constitute the crime necessary to turn calling it a 'legal expense' into a felony. Basically, one big fucking moronic house of cards assembled by the same people who let rapists off with a slap on the wrist.


But...

and here we're circling back to the juicy part that puts this all into context-
all this 2016 era nonsense took place contemporary with Hillary Clinton funding the creation of the Steele Dossier opposition research. Which her campaign funded secretly, by sending money funneled through legal firm Perkins Coie, misrepresented as 'legal fees', to Fusion GPS, to Christopher Steele. And unlike the Trump case where a personal expense was paid with personal funds, the Steele Dossier was a clear example of a campaign expenditure which was not reported. And it took a full 6 years but last summer the FEC finally regrew at least one tooth in its barren gums and fined the DNC and Clinton campaign $113,000. For comparison, when Ilhan Omar broke campaign finance laws to try to cover up her marriage to her brother, the eventual FEC ruling was a $500 fine and reimburse $3500. Nobody getting arrested and thrown in shackles in either case, that's for sure. Because that's how its supposed to work. But clearly, the Clinton case had even worse campaign fraud and coverup, caught redhanded, contemporary with the Stormy Daniels saga and far greater in scale, in the same jurisdiction (or not at all, under any reasonable understanding of federal campaign finance pre-empting state charges anyway). Except Hillary's side actually did the crime. Pish posh! Trump and Hillary both made shells for the Nazis, but Hillary's worked, damn it!

sort of the same story as how Biden's DoJ went after Trump on muh documents only for Joe to instantly step on a rake.



/e pretty sure I forgot the part about how it can be shown a businessman paying hush money to a mistress is a kind of payment/extortion that can occur without a campaign because Trump's done it before.
honestly this story is so fucking long dead that I've forgotten more about it than I remembered and I made an effort to pick these bones again

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 13 2023 06:30am
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the 2016 election????? you mean when the lefties went screaming into the streets Burning Looting and Murdering and being election deniers that 2016?????
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 13 2023 11:29pm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/13/trump-indictment-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels/

In our latest edition of thumping away at the flowers growing from the soil once watered with the meaty drippings of a horse beaten many ages past-

Prosecutors in New York are trying once again to stab Trump in the eye. Alvin Bragg is spearheading that effort, using forbidden thaumaturgical magic to reanimate the corpse of the stormy daniels scandal despite spending seven years under the earth.
So lets take a walk back in time and rehash the facts of the case

Trump paid stormy daniels $130k in hush money during the election, all paid from his private, non-campaign funded source. As the FEC head has explained, campaign funds must be used and reported for expenses that would not occur 'but for a campaign', whereas personal funds must be used- and need not be reported- for expenses that could happen without a campaign occurring. This doesn't reflect whether the intent of an expense is to influence an election, as that bar is subjective and impossible to determine, rather only the nexus of causality. The classical example is a haircut. Even an expensive haircut to make a candidate look photogenic during a debate, above their normal non-election routine, is still a personal expense. Because they'd get a haircut even without an election occurring. Per this rule, Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels could not legally use campaign funds, and if he had, he'd be on the hook for campaign finance abuse which carries a negligible fine (a few thousand backs usually) and paying back the amount, a trivial offense. But Trump did not use campaign funds, so he actually did it legally.
Prosecutors in the case however went after Michael Cohen, who was on the hook for other unrelated financial crimes, and had him dead to rights. They offered him a sweetheart deal, allowing him to plead guilty to the Storm Daniels payment as a crime in order to get a lenient sentence on the rest of it. A sort of 'murder, rape and jaywalking, plead to jaywalking' prosecution. So even though he could have taken that charge to trial and won since it was bogus, all the prosecutors had to do was find a judge willing to play ball. And they did.
Now seven years later, prosecutors want to go after Trump. But they don't want go after him on a negligible campaign finance charge with a measly fine, especially one that won't stick. So they're focusing in on "falsifying business records", because the payment was listed as "legal expenses". Which at best was a nebulous term for the hush money, but under the theory of it being a campaign expense would be a violation since it needed to be reported. But even that charge is another measly misdemeanor. So to have it stick, they want to go with "falsifying business records to cover up another crime", a felony. And the theory there is that campaign finance violation- which didn't actually exist in the first place- would constitute the crime necessary to turn calling it a 'legal expense' into a felony. Basically, one big fucking moronic house of cards assembled by the same people who let rapists off with a slap on the wrist.


But...

and here we're circling back to the juicy part that puts this all into context-
all this 2016 era nonsense took place contemporary with Hillary Clinton funding the creation of the Steele Dossier opposition research. Which her campaign funded secretly, by sending money funneled through legal firm Perkins Coie, misrepresented as 'legal fees', to Fusion GPS, to Christopher Steele. And unlike the Trump case where a personal expense was paid with personal funds, the Steele Dossier was a clear example of a campaign expenditure which was not reported. And it took a full 6 years but last summer the FEC finally regrew at least one tooth in its barren gums and fined the DNC and Clinton campaign $113,000. For comparison, when Ilhan Omar broke campaign finance laws to try to cover up her marriage to her brother, the eventual FEC ruling was a $500 fine and reimburse $3500. Nobody getting arrested and thrown in shackles in either case, that's for sure. Because that's how its supposed to work. But clearly, the Clinton case had even worse campaign fraud and coverup, caught redhanded, contemporary with the Stormy Daniels saga and far greater in scale, in the same jurisdiction (or not at all, under any reasonable understanding of federal campaign finance pre-empting state charges anyway). Except Hillary's side actually did the crime. Pish posh! Trump and Hillary both made shells for the Nazis, but Hillary's worked, damn it!

sort of the same story as how Biden's DoJ went after Trump on muh documents only for Joe to instantly step on a rake.



/e pretty sure I forgot the part about how it can be shown a businessman paying hush money to a mistress is a kind of payment/extortion that can occur without a campaign because Trump's done it before.
honestly this story is so fucking long dead that I've forgotten more about it than I remembered and I made an effort to pick these bones again


You keep repeating the lie about omar marrying her brother despite it being more debunked than the grassy knoll.
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Mar 13 2023 10:24pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 13 2023 08:08pm)
You keep repeating the lie about omar marrying her brother despite it being more debunked than the grassy knoll.


some people did something.....

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 13 2023 10:08pm)
You keep repeating the lie about omar marrying her brother despite it being more debunked than the grassy knoll.


She provably married her brother. We have the marriage license, divorce certificate, apartment leases, police reports, tax filings, photos together, family pictures, yearbooks, business records, etc. Nobody in the Somali community even bothers with her fake story, when her father died he was publicly mourned by all the local leaders and business owners by his real surname (Nur Said Elmi, not Omar), and listed his surviving children including the Ahmed she pretends doesnt exist. Theres only one Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in the world and he has the exact same birthdate as her marriage certificate and her brother as pictured in the hosptial on her instagram with a visible medical bracelet listing his name and birthday. And which matches his pictures in the yearbook growing up.

There are some known details of that story and others still unknown. We know her brother is gay and their conservative family brought him back from London to be with the Somalis in MN because they wanted to get him away from Londons gay community (too bad the gay 90s exists eh). We know their family split up leaving Kenya, Ahmed and Sahra went to the UK and she posed as his mother when she was actually his sister, while Ilhan and her father posed as relatives of the unrelated Omar family from Virginia to defraud our immigration system, as virtually all Somali migrants were doing. We dont know exactly why she married her brother. Probably student loan fraud, probably not immigration fraud because he didn't try to apply as a spouse.


/e I had to look it up again
it was Leila, Ahmed and Mohamed who went to the UK under their real names and non-fraudulent asylum, albeit Leila posing as a mother to avoid child services treating them as parentless. Sahra and Ilhan and their father became fake Omars to enter the US

its all a bit purposefully confusing, but what do you expect, look at the feeding our future indictments

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 14 2023 01:27am
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 14 2023 06:21pm)
She provably married her brother. We have the marriage license, divorce certificate, apartment leases, police reports, tax filings, photos together, family pictures, yearbooks, business records, etc. Nobody in the Somali community even bothers with her fake story, when her father died he was publicly mourned by all the local leaders and business owners by his real surname (Nur Said Elmi, not Omar), and listed his surviving children including the Ahmed she pretends doesnt exist. Theres only one Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in the world and he has the exact same birthdate as her marriage certificate and her brother as pictured in the hosptial on her instagram with a visible medical bracelet listing his name and birthday. And which matches his pictures in the yearbook growing up.

There are some known details of that story and others still unknown. We know her brother is gay and their conservative family brought him back from London to be with the Somalis in MN because they wanted to get him away from Londons gay community (too bad the gay 90s exists eh). We know their family split up leaving Kenya, Ahmed and Sahra went to the UK and she posed as his mother when she was actually his sister, while Ilhan and her father posed as relatives of the unrelated Omar family from Virginia to defraud our immigration system, as virtually all Somali migrants were doing. We dont know exactly why she married her brother. Probably student loan fraud, probably not immigration fraud because he didn't try to apply as a spouse.


/e I had to look it up again
it was Leila, Ahmed and Mohamed who went to the UK under their real names and non-fraudulent asylum, albeit Leila posing as a mother to avoid child services treating them as parentless. Sahra and Ilhan and their father became fake Omars to enter the US

its all a bit purposefully confusing, but what do you expect, look at the feeding our future indictments


Almost nothing you said has been proven to not be fake, all records indicate all the siblings moved to america together and were given citizenship.
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Almost nothing you said has been proven to not be fake, all records indicate all the siblings moved to america together and were given citizenship.


They lived in the UK for years, there is extensive documentation of their asylum, their years in school, their social media, etc. That's like saying that Boris Johnson spent the last 10 years living in the US. I mean, c'mon
In fact the pictures Ahmed took of himself being very flamboyantly gay and posted to social media are undoubtedly why he was forced to go to America by his family. But probably has nothing to do with his marriage to his sister since it seems everyone in the community already knew they were brother and sister so its not like he was passing himself off as married to a woman to be fake straight. And from what I've read, he basically went from the gay scene of London to the gay scene of Minneapolis anyway. Like I said, they probably just fake-married for student loan fraud

The extensive records prove it all beyond any doubt. I mean, there are tax forms showing she illegally filed jointly with her 'actual' husband, while still married 'officially' to her brother. And when she used campaign funds to dig up those tax forms, she wound up getting prosecuted by the FEC for it and had to pay the minor fine that comes with campaign finance fraud. Of course, she was also actually cheating on her 'actual' husband, with her campaign manager, and wound up divorcing her brother, marrying her 'actual' husband who is father of her daughter, then divorcing him too and marrying her campaign manager. All while funneling exorbitant amounts of campaign funds to the man she was having an affair with, despite her election being impossible to lose and requiring zero campaigning. And when her brother-marrying scandal did come out because a Somali whistleblower spoke to the press about it, she sent violent goons door to door in Cedar Riverside, a guy who was somehow put on her staff and payroll despite the fact he was just sprung out of jail while facing charges on a triple attempted murder stabbing spree, was filmed on video telling people they must find and 'deal with' the whistleblower'

The whole Ilhan Omar saga is basically bottomless, it keeps going deeper and deeper past that, but who cares? She's a great representative of MN-5, the district absolutely deserves her and is well represented by her.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 14 2023 04:09am
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