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Mar 8 2023 01:28pm
https://www.startribune.com/family-of-slain-brooklyn-park-woman-rebukes-plea-bargain-offered-to-teen-suspects/600256994/?refresh=true

On November 9th, 22 year old Haynes and a 17 year and 15 year old Kamara brothers drove to the house of McKeever, the ex girlfriend of Haynes. She had taken out a restraining order against him, and been stalked and harassed repeatedly by him despite it. Haynes and the Kamara brothers plotted to ambush and murder her- Haynes drove the younger two to the house, where they kicked in the door, invaded her home and shot and murdered her in cold blood. Despite the preplanned nature of the crime with obvious malice aforethought and an abundance of physical evidence proving their guilt, prosecutors only sought second degree murder charges for the younger two and first degree murder seeking an aggravated sentence for the 22 year old.

But last month this changed when the newly elected liberal Hennepin Count Attorney took over with a mandate to be more lenient to juvenile defendants. Despite this being a preplanned murder in cold blood during a home invasion, Mary Moriarty has given the two teenagers a plea deal to be tried as juveniles instead of adults, with a sentence of only two years at a juvenile facility- not prison- before returning home on a probation that ends with their 21st birthdays, at which point they get a free slate. Meanwhile Moriarty is still seeking life in prison for the 22 year old Haynes, and justifies her plea deals by stating that a child's mind is not fully formed until age 25. Which she didn't apply to the 22 year old Haynes.

In protest of this decision the lead prosecutor in this case has stepped aside and protests by the family McKeever and her surviving 1 year old daughter, who are now petitioning the judge in the case to reject the plea deal;

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In an hourlong meeting Friday, exasperated relatives peppered Moriarty with questions, demanding to hear her rationale for the abrupt change of course. She explained that sending children to prison is traumatizing and often results in more difficulty reintegrating back into society when they are eventually released in their mid-30s.

In an audio recording obtained by the Star Tribune, Moriarty apologized for how the situation had played out, but held firm in her belief that the system has the best chance of rehabilitating the brothers at Red Wing.

"Murder is the highest crime someone can commit, so I'm just struggling to figure out how you're going to feel safe putting someone back out on the street in a few years that committed murder," Greer replied. "Will you accept it if one or both of them get out and kill again? ... The blood would be on your hands."


So this begs the question: Should child murderers ever be sent to prison? Or should we as a society just accept that anyone under a certain age isn't responsible for their actions, and that age is arbitrary and decided on at random in every case without any consistent scientific or cultural reasoning?
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Mar 8 2023 01:30pm
Mind your business and you will sleep better at night.
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Mar 8 2023 01:35pm
without reading it, considering how many bait topics op makes about this, they arent white, are they
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Mar 8 2023 01:45pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 8 2023 01:35pm)
without reading it, considering how many bait topics op makes about this, they arent white, are they


The victim was a black woman, yes.
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Mar 8 2023 01:53pm
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The victim was a black woman, yes.


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Mar 8 2023 02:06pm
Brock Turner is a rapist.
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Mar 8 2023 03:04pm
There's just a minus on sentence since, as example, 5 years in prison at 15 is not the same than doing it at 25.
I'm afraid US justice is not flexible enough regarding these cases. Could be extreme in a way or the other.
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Mar 8 2023 03:13pm
We generally sentence teenagers as harshly as adults, but send them to juvenile prisons with a greater focus on rehabilition. Even children as young as 10 are sent to juvenile prisons if the crime is severe: this is because the scientific consensus is that children know right from wrong from a very young age (8+). Look up the murder of James Bulger.
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Mar 8 2023 03:25pm
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We generally sentence teenagers as harshly as adults, but send them to juvenile prisons with a greater focus on rehabilition. Even children as young as 10 are sent to juvenile prisons if the crime is severe: this is because the scientific consensus is that children know right from wrong from a very young age (8+). Look up the murder of James Bulger.


what is a severe crime over there anyways? sending back baked beans for breakfast because there's no vinegar on the table to drown them in?
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Mar 8 2023 03:27pm
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what is a severe crime over there anyways? sending back baked beans for breakfast because there's no vinegar on the table to drown them in?

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