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Jun 28 2026 06:48am
Jesus doesn't know how to count. Contradictions you refuse to acknowledge.

God sent Gad, to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(2) Samuel 24:13 SEVEN years of famine.
(1) Chron.: 21:12 THREE years of famine.

When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
(1) Chron.: 18:4 David took SEVEN THOUSAND horsemen
(2) Samuel: 8:4 David took ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED horsemen

How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
(I ) Kings 4:26: FORTY THOUSAND
(2) Chron: 9:25 FOUR THOUSAND

The Temple contained how many baths?
(1) Kings 7:26 – TWO THOUSAND baths.
(2) Chron. 4:5 – THREE THOUSAND baths

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(2 )Kings 24:8 – EIGHTEEN years of age
(2) Chron. 36:9 EIGHT years of age


More copy and paste misunderstandings :)

Ephesians 2:10
[10] We have become his poetry, a re-created people that will fulfill the destiny he has given each of us, for we are joined to Jesus, the Anointed One. Even before we were born, God planned in advance our destiny and the good works we would do to fulfill it!
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Jun 28 2026 10:02am
Jesus doesn't know how to count. Contradictions you refuse to acknowledge.

God sent Gad, to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(2) Samuel 24:13 SEVEN years of famine.
(1) Chron.: 21:12 THREE years of famine.

When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
(1) Chron.: 18:4 David took SEVEN THOUSAND horsemen
(2) Samuel: 8:4 David took ONE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED horsemen

How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
(I ) Kings 4:26: FORTY THOUSAND
(2) Chron: 9:25 FOUR THOUSAND

The Temple contained how many baths?
(1) Kings 7:26 – TWO THOUSAND baths.
(2) Chron. 4:5 – THREE THOUSAND baths

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(2 )Kings 24:8 – EIGHTEEN years of age
(2) Chron. 36:9 EIGHT years of age


christians follow the teachings of Jesus. you seem hung up on ancient obscure old testament details. maybe your beef is with the jews?

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This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 28 2026 10:14am
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Jun 28 2026 02:48pm
More copy and paste misunderstandings :)

Ephesians 2:10
[10] We have become his poetry, a re-created people that will fulfill the destiny he has given each of us, for we are joined to Jesus, the Anointed One. Even before we were born, God planned in advance our destiny and the good works we would do to fulfill it!


Well since you haven’t shown how they are not contradictions two conflicting numbers that vary wildly is not consistent story which suggests it is made up.
Try again

christians follow the teachings of Jesus. you seem hung up on ancient obscure old testament details. maybe your beef is with the jews?

(addone exhibits characteristics of a chat bot)


So your excuse is when your god was writing about jews and the creation etc he was drunk and incompetent to the point where he didn't know how to count?
Its not just counting errors its major plot holes you can drive a tank through.

Also there are many errors in new testament so it appears your god is still drunk
For example number of apostles in Luke 10
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Jun 28 2026 03:33pm
Well since you haven’t shown how they are not contradictions two conflicting numbers that vary wildly is not consistent story which suggests it is made up.
Try again



So your excuse is when your god was writing about jews and the creation etc he was drunk and incompetent to the point where he didn't know how to count?
Its not just counting errors its major plot holes you can drive a tank through.

Also there are many errors in new testament so it appears your god is still drunk
For example number of apostles in Luke 10


addone doesnt actually post scripture in context. he just says bee booob beeeep errors me sezz so beeeeep
some ancient jewish bean counter counts something then at some unknown time n conditions later maybe a different counter counts something again and the numbers are not the same
what a dorky argument
and then i am supposed to go back into ancient hebrew scripture and put it all into context ..................................naw not going to do it
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Jun 28 2026 03:34pm
Let's ignore the personal remarks and stick to the actual discussion.

You said your standard is "physical evidence, logical evidence, or credible first-hand eyewitness testimony."

That's a much better place to start.

My question is this:

Do you apply that standard consistently to **all** unique events in ancient history?

For example, if multiple first-century witnesses consistently claimed they saw an event, would you ever consider that sufficient historical evidence, even if the event couldn't be repeated scientifically?

If your answer is "no," then you've adopted a standard that rules out **every** unique ancient event before you even examine the evidence.

If your answer is "yes," then the discussion becomes whether the resurrection accounts meet that historical standard—not whether miracles are impossible by definition.

Also, regarding God "showing up" on command: Christianity has never taught that God is obligated to perform signs whenever someone demands them. In fact, the Gospels record occasions where Jesus refused to perform signs simply because people demanded one. So your expectation isn't something Christianity itself promises.

Finally, you keep saying I haven't questioned my beliefs. I have. That's precisely why I've spent time studying the historical evidence, manuscript evidence, philosophy, and arguments on both sides. You're free to conclude that I'm wrong, but it's not accurate to say I haven't examined the question.


Standard of proof is identical, the weight and reliability assigned to each type of evidence differ significantly:

Physical Evidence: Generally considered objective and tangible, providing concrete proof that can be measured or analyzed (e.g., DNA, fingerprints, weapons). It is less susceptible to subjective bias or memory lapses.

Personal Testimony: Is subjective and human-dependent, relying on the witness's credibility, perception, and memory. It is more vulnerable to challenges such as bias, inconsistency, or the hearsay rule, which excludes statements made outside of court unless an exception applies.

Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence that are beyond reasonable doubt.

For example if someone is accused of murder and facing life in prison that evidence must be rock solid vs if someone is accused of stealing bubble gum.

If you claim jesus was an ordinary guy who spiritually resurrected my requirement for proof will be proportional to the claim.
If you claim jesus was "god" performed magic/miracles and physicaly resurrected he said/she said are no longer good enough by themselves. Testimony (non extraordinary evidence) will be considered as valid evidence but its value/weight isn't the same as physical/tangible proof.
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Jun 28 2026 03:49pm
addone doesnt actually post scripture in context. he just says bee booob beeeep errors me sezz so beeeeep
some ancient jewish bean counter counts something then at some unknown time n conditions later maybe a different counter counts something again and the numbers are not the same
what a dorky argument
and then i am supposed to go back into ancient hebrew scripture and put it all into context ..................................naw not going to do it


Thats very rude of you to reduce your god to some generic "jewish bean counter". You clearly cannot justify the obvious errors of the bible.
So instead of coming to the obvious conclusion that its a fallible story written by imperfect bronze age goat herders you'd rather ignore the uncomfortable truth and continue to live in lala land.
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Jun 28 2026 04:13pm
Thats very rude of you to reduce your god to some generic "jewish bean counter". You clearly cannot justify the obvious errors of the bible.
So instead of coming to the obvious conclusion that its a fallible story written by imperfect bronze age goat herders you'd rather ignore the uncomfortable truth and continue to live in lala land.


you have a condition. its called rigid thinking. you are also a obvious study for dunning kruger effect.
a lot of the stuff in the bible are just ancient historical documents that helps put the historical account together

the beginning of the 1st testament
the jews were lead out of captivity
first thing they did was cast a idol to worship (golden calf)
the first testament is about God working with a difficult people

lol if you version about ancient jewish bean counters is true then you have unwittingly added proof to the 1st testament jewish character (difficult people)

christians follow the teaching of Jesus. doubt any of them care about your obsession with ancient jewish bean counters. matters little if they were bad at counting or if its just a addone figment

also needs to be mentioned that you cant seem to post the scripture your having a "problem" with
not the first time a 'atheist cant post scripture ............ for some reason
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Jun 28 2026 05:22pm
you have a condition. its called rigid thinking. you are also a obvious study for dunning kruger effect.
a lot of the stuff in the bible are just ancient historical documents that helps put the historical account together

the beginning of the 1st testament
the jews were lead out of captivity
first thing they did was cast a idol to worship (golden calf)
the first testament is about God working with a difficult people

lol if you version about ancient jewish bean counters is true then you have unwittingly added proof to the 1st testament jewish character (difficult people)

christians follow the teaching of Jesus. doubt any of them care about your obsession with ancient jewish bean counters. matters little if they were bad at counting or if its just a addone figment

also needs to be mentioned that you cant seem to post the scripture your having a "problem" with
not the first time a 'atheist cant post scripture ............ for some reason


You just described an impossible or highly improbable scenario because of the dates fudged by your "jewish bean countering god". This is why details matter when you want to establish truth clearly which you have very little regard for.

Exodus doesn't make sense in just about every way historically, archeologically, chronologically, or even logistically

The video explains in detail how it could not have been the case



Just take one aspect in this entire story which doesn't make sense the Tabernacle which the bible constructed used 29 gold talents and 730 shekels, which converts to approximately 2,175 to 2,200 pounds of gold. Thats roughly 1 metric tonne of solid gold they would need a dump truck to carry that much
Where did the jewish slaves get their hands on that much gold lol? Not only that they had more gold as they also supposedly built a golden calf statue made out of gold. And thats not counting all the jewlery they had which the bible mentions

That doesn't sound like they were slaves at all sounds like they were very wealthy OR a made up nonsense story

This post was edited by addone on Jun 28 2026 05:50pm
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Jun 28 2026 05:52pm
You just described an impossible or highly improbable scenario because of the dates fudged by your "jewish bean countering god". This is why details matter when you want to establish truth clearly which you have very little regard for.

Exodus doesn't make sense in just about every way historically, archeologically, chronologically, or even logistically

The video explains in detail how it could not have been the case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh-jUE3ahdQ


things make sense or dont make sense depending on the interpretation. we have seen how you select interpretation. ..........chit dude you cant even figure out unicorn

lol AE they put the live show on sundays when christians were at church then they have fake callers call the show then they totally win the argument.
chit was amusing.
lol 2 hour video lol you didnt watch that
how about this. instead of me playing a guessing game why dont you take your strongest argument out of the vid time stamp it and explain it

one thing i have learned about trash can ful of chit 'atheists it how dishonest they are. they will post all kids of chit to waste peoples time.

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 28 2026 05:57pm
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things make sense or dont make sense depending on the interpretation. we have seen how you select interpretation. ..........chit dude you cant even figure out unicorn

lol AE they put the live show on sundays when christians were at church then they have fake callers call the show then they totally win the argument.
chit was amusing.


Fake christian? How do you know it was fake christian, because it sounds exactly like you (except a lot more eloquent)

Your no true Scotsman fallacy is not doing you any favors. Try again
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