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Jan 25 2026 11:50pm
Let's work backwards like Luke does.

Matthew 1:18 ESV

"Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothedto Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit."

Mary is Betrothed to Joseph.

Luke 3:23 ESV

Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli.

The key phrase is "as was supposed" with Joseph being the son of Heli. Joseph is betrothed to marry Heli's daughter, Mary. Joseph bears the name of Heli so his name will not be blotted out of Israel.

Deuteronomy 25:5-6 ESV

5 “If brothers dwell together, andone of them dies and has no son, the wife of the dead man shall not be married outside the family to a stranger. Her husband’s brother shall go in to her and take her as his wife and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her. 6And the first son whom she bears shall succeed to the name of his dead brother, that his name may not be blotted out of Israel.

Brothers or Half Brothers, this law still applied to them. When we investigate, we apply critical thinking and so we can answer questions outside of the passage.

I suggest you read the first 5 books of the Old Testament to understand the Law because much of the New Testament will reference the Old Testament with the assumption that the reader will know the reference or at least go and investigate.


Well this is an assumption. The bible didn't make it clear through simple straightforward explanation. It left a few crumbs for a reader to fill in the gaps, like a mystery novel.
I am not saying this isn't a possible explanation its that it leaves a lot to be desired.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRliPQUjTi0


hey pal, ty 4 trying to b part of the conversation. im happy u r trying to engage.

but u cannot expect us to have our algorithm contaminated by clickin on ur links :(

SO! pls type out the essence of what this is about - ofc u can link it as a source (thats how the big boys do it!), but a good discussion does not consist of links sent back and forth.
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Jan 26 2026 04:30am
the bible quote assumes there is a "who" to look through the glass, there is no "who" choosing to look in simulation theory, it's a determined action of an npc.

there would be no purpose at all for humans under simulation theory because we wouldn't actually be people capable of choices, it would make literally all of the difference.


i think we have different idea what a "simulation" would be or mean.

?dreaming could be considered a simulation. even though when we wake and the dreams seem perhaps ridiculous its still real when we are having one?
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hey pal, ty 4 trying to b part of the conversation. im happy u r trying to engage.

but u cannot expect us to have our algorithm contaminated by clickin on ur links :(

SO! pls type out the essence of what this is about - ofc u can link it as a source (thats how the big boys do it!), but a good discussion does not consist of links sent back and forth.
and always - pm me if u need further details :hug:


Ancient Chinese Astronomy Records on Jesus Christ: A Surprising Connection
October 30, 2024
https://jontic.com/ancient-chinese-astronomy-records-on-jesus-christ-a-surprising-connection/
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For over two millennia, ancient Chinese astronomy records have fascinated scholars with their unique insights into the stars.

Some of these records also reflect historical events that intriguingly overlap with key moments in Christianity.

These records offer surprising correlations to the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, matching biblical accounts in extraordinary detail.
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Jan 26 2026 08:39am
Well this is an assumption. The bible didn't make it clear through simple straightforward explanation. It left a few crumbs for a reader to fill in the gaps, like a mystery novel.
I am not saying this isn't a possible explanation its that it leaves a lot to be desired.


Biological line / legal line. There is no assumption to be made here.

Deuteronomy 25:5–6
If a man dies childless, his brother is to marry the widow, and the child is legally counted as the dead brother’s son.

Heli and Jacob were brothers / Heli died without children / Jacob married Heli’s widow /Joseph was biologically Jacob’s son, but legally Heli’s son.

Hope that clears everything up for you. Go ahead and ask ai to give you more "contradictions" because you are still striking out.

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God's word is just, true, and doesn't contradict. Again the issue is you having a misunderstanding of the Bible, the context, and applying your ai and modern worldview is getting you nowhere.
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Jan 26 2026 04:48pm
Well this is an assumption. The bible didn't make it clear through simple straightforward explanation. It left a few crumbs for a reader to fill in the gaps, like a mystery novel.
I am not saying this isn't a possible explanation its that it leaves a lot to be desired.


I for one really enjoyed doing research on this topic. Just need to do a little digging deeper and you will find your answer.

What I don't like is when people scream contradiction without first doing their research, leaving it up to us to do it for them. Perhaps I should bring back the LMGTFY.

If you want something that is explained straightforward and thus needs very little research look up Matthew 13:1-23. It's the Parable of the Sower.
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Jan 26 2026 06:11pm
i think we have different idea what a "simulation" would be or mean.

?dreaming could be considered a simulation. even though when we wake and the dreams seem perhaps ridiculous its still real when we are having one?


it's an illusion it's never real, a dream that is. the dream exists, but it's not 'real'.

in the same way spiderman exists, but is not real. it doesn't matter what an npc does in the spiderverse, it's not morally wrong because that npc has no agency even though they exist in a non real way

the only "real" person is the author, and if simulation theory is true there is no us doing things moral or immoral, only the simulator, so we have literally no purpose and it's impossible for us to do good or wrong or make any choice at all in simulation theory

it's "True ontological existence (real existence)" vs "conceptual existence (or even phenomenology, we might even feel as if it's real)"

another example: in my head imagine a guy named bob, bob rapes and murders someone, did bob do a real moral crime and should be punished for his actions or is the entire existence of bob simply not actually real but only holds a conceptual existence? can we judge bob for his behaviors or is the only person to question me for creating a weird conceptual scenario? the same for simulation theory, in that worldview the world is a concept in the simulator/programmer/creator's conceptual database and it's never actually "real"

the same for your dream, etc.

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Jan 26 2026 08:09pm
it's an illusion it's never real, a dream that is. the dream exists, but it's not 'real'.

in the same way spiderman exists, but is not real. it doesn't matter what an npc does in the spiderverse, it's not morally wrong because that npc has no agency even though they exist in a non real way

the only "real" person is the author, and if simulation theory is true there is no us doing things moral or immoral, only the simulator, so we have literally no purpose and it's impossible for us to do good or wrong or make any choice at all in simulation theory

it's "True ontological existence (real existence)" vs "conceptual existence (or even phenomenology, we might even feel as if it's real)"

another example: in my head imagine a guy named bob, bob rapes and murders someone, did bob do a real moral crime and should be punished for his actions or is the entire existence of bob simply not actually real but only holds a conceptual existence? can we judge bob for his behaviors or is the only person to question me for creating a weird conceptual scenario? the same for simulation theory, in that worldview the world is a concept in the simulator/programmer/creator's conceptual database and it's never actually "real"

the same for your dream, etc.


i still contend we have two different ideas what a simulation would be like

even so you dont have to physically commit sin to sin
Matthew 5:28
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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Jan 26 2026 10:26pm
i still contend we have two different ideas what a simulation would be like

even so you dont have to physically commit sin to sin
Matthew 5:28
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


when did I say you have to physically do something for it to be wrong? my point is about agency.

in the simulation theory, there is no "looking on a woman with lust" as a decision you made, because there is no agent capable of making decisions. if the person who made the simulation programmed it to determine that the NPC of ME is determined to be lustful there is no "wrongness" in my actions, as there is no sense of agency in "me" i am simply analogous to a rock floating in space determined by the laws of gravity.

there is no possibility of repentance in simulation theory, I cannot choose to change my wicked lustful heart and orient myself with God, I am simply a programmed NPC acting based on my programming.


what is your understanding of a simulation?
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