circular logic is not necessarily incorrect, and that is a fallacy fallacy. The foundation of every worldview is actually necessarily self-referential, and Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem shows that when logic itself reaches its absolute limit of consistency and completeness at the self-reference level, which is absolutely coherent for the grounding of all logic being an eternal being with a will aka God

No one approached me by the name of devil to convince me to not approach any crosses. I have arrived to this conclusion on my own. In fact its is almost always a Christian of some kind that tells me I am sinful and need to be saved etc. So not sure what you are talking about there. I haven't broken any laws and lead a good life at least by my standards don't see why I need to be saved.

Its none of your business what I do with my money but you can be sure it won't be anything to do with religion.

Also just had some time to read through your post on jesus genealogy

How does your research reconcile these 2 direct contradictions?

Matthew 1:15-16
15 and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.

Luke 3:23
Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli.

I dont understand much of your confusing diagrams with arrows looks like I am talking to this guy



This post was edited by addone on Jan 19 2026 11:43pm

You don't want diagrams? Alright, here is the explanation:

Deuteronomy 25:5-6 talks about the Levirate Marriage

5 If brothers are living together and one of them dies without a son, his widow must not marry outside the family. Her husband’s brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her. 6 The first son she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that his name will not be blotted out from Israel.

Matthan dies and so Estha marries Matthat. Matthan had a son, Jacob while Matthat had a son, Heli. Heli dies and so Heli’s Wife Marries Jacob as he and Heli are half-brothers. This is where Deuteronomy 25:5-6 applies and so Jacob’s son Joseph bears the name of the dead brother. Joseph also inherits the right to Marry Heli’s daughter Mary.

This sounds like some kind of game of thrones love island type of shit. What a clusterfuck of a family. I am trying to follow this .. so levitate marriage involves brothers but how do you know Heli and Jacob were brothers since none of their families are related as far as I can see? Feels like this is next level mental gymnastics trying very hard to make a square peg fit into a round hole.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 20 2026 02:19am

Your point is that you didn't say things which you clearly did say, repeatedly. Those quotes are all still available in this thread as I have shown, but you continue to deny saying them.

You are lying openly. I'm not going to humor you if you are incapable of arguing in good faith.

You never answered my simple question not now not then, because you know that you completely misunderstood a very straightforward meme. Now you are trying to save yourself the embarrassment and pawn it off on me.
You made a strawman in your head and you think i am arguing the same thing. The quotes were in line with my original post not your misapprehension. That is the definition of arguing in bad faith.

Do you admit you personally don't know the truth behind life as we know it?

You're a bit of a space cadet. Explain to me how the post I quoted doesn't say that the Bible attempts to prove the existence of God, and I will answer your attempt to pivot away from this. If we can't agree that your words mean what they say we can't have a conversation.

"as we know it"

more like

"as we were told by our cult"

If you are going to ask loaded questions like that don't expect me to take you seriously. This reeks desperation.

#19 – On What Day Did Jesus Die?
We know that Jesus died by crucifixion. However, on what day? In the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus is crucified on the day of Passover (Nisan 15), following the Last Supper, which is described as a Passover meal. This timeline situates Jesus' death after the Passover lambs were sacrificed.

In contrast, John’s Gospel places Jesus’ crucifixion on the day before Passover (Nisan 14), at the same time the Passover lambs were being slaughtered in preparation for the festival (John 19:14).

#20 – The High Priest Abiathar in Mark 2:26
Another biblical mistake comes from Mark 2:26, where Jesus references an event from 1 Samuel 21:1-6. In Mark’s account, Jesus recalls how David, in need of food, entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, “in the days of Abiathar the high priest.”

The problem lies in that, according to 1 Samuel, the high priest at the time of this event was Ahimelech, Abiathar’s father. Abiathar became high priest later, following Ahimelech’s death. This discrepancy has prompted much scholarly debate.

However, most critical scholars, unburdened by the radical understanding of inerrancy, see it as a simple error or misattribution by the author of Mark.

#21 – Was the Curtain in the Temple Torn Before or After Jesus’ Death?
There is another contradiction in the Bible related to Jesus’ death. It centers on the timing of the tearing of the temple curtain. In Matthew 27:50-51, the moment is described as happening immediately after Jesus' death: “And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. At that moment, the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.”

However, in Luke’s account, a slight difference in the sequence arises. Luke 23:45 mentions the tearing of the curtain just before Jesus cries out: “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” This subtle shift in timing creates a discrepancy between Luke and the other Synoptic Gospels.
Understanding of inerrancy, see it as a simple error or misattribution by the author of Mark.