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Sep 13 2025 12:11am
Dear god jesus in heaven that's some brutal footage. What's the death toll at?
I wonder if the governors of each (democrat run) state need to declare martial law to put down these violent riots.


Hmmm, dunno the death toll... But, I do know that radical right wing terrorism accounts for about 65% of domestic terrorism in the US. Although, it IS ironic that they're having a nazi protest while it was a MAGA white dude who killed Kirk.

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Sep 13 2025 12:12am
He only spent a semester in college. There are no college years.


Lies, he went to 2 different colleges.
You are only counting the first one.
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Sep 13 2025 12:19am
Lies, he went to 2 different colleges.
You are only counting the first one.


Oh, MY BAD. He spent a couple years at Dixie Technical College... Sure hope he wasn't radicalized there to commit MAGA on MAGA crime.
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Sep 13 2025 12:24am
Hmmm, dunno the death toll... But, I do know that radical right wing terrorism accounts for about 65% of domestic terrorism in the US. Although, it IS ironic that they're having a nazi protest while it was a MAGA white dude who killed Kirk.


And when you claim 65% of domestic terrorism in the US is radical right wing terrorism, you're basing this off numbers that count left-wing terrorism as right-wing terrorism, and count non-political violence regardless of motive like domestic assaults, love triangles, drug dealing, gangs, etc.
To give some random examples you just listed as radical right-wing terrorism, before you deny that's the basis of your claim, I'm clicking the ADL's map at random. Just looking at murders.

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Montana authorities arrested Daren Christopher Abbey, a self-described white supremacist with a prior hate crime conviction and multiple white supremacist tattoos, for the alleged murder of a man camping in a tent near Big Sky in southwestern Montana on October 10, 2024. He was charged with deliberate homicide and tampering with evidence. The motive for the killing is not clear. Abbey claimed self-defense, though he allegedly admitted to removing evidence from the crime scene and taking items belonging to the victim. Police say Abbey admitted to assaulting the victim with multiple items, including a screwdriver and an axe.

Timothy Bradford Cole II, according to authorities, an individual associated with a white supremacist gang, was charged with murder and other felony charges following a series of incidents that resulted in a deadly crash. Cole allegedly set fire to the home of a relative following a child custody dispute. A car chase ensued when police arrived on the scene; according to authorities, Cole crashed his vehicle into another vehicle, killing one of its occupants and seriously injuring two others.

On August 29, 2024, Corey Cobb-Bey, a sovereign citizen and Moorish Science Temple adherent, pulled his vehicle near a parked police cruiser, then got out and approached the officer sitting in the cruiser. After a brief discussion, Cobb-Bey pulled out a gun and shot the officer at point-blank range, killing him. Cobb-Bey removed a shotgun from the police cruiser, then waited for other officers to respond to the killing, engaging them in gunfire when they arrived and wounding two officers, one of whom was shot in the face and permanently blinded by her injuries. Cobb-Bey then fled in his own vehicle. After a 20-mile chase, he stopped, exiting his vehicle with a shotgun that he pointed at officers exiting their own vehicles; he died after multiple officers fired at him. Police have characterized the incident as an "ambush" and "execution."


Hmm weird.
The first two have no political motive, they've just been listed because the people who committed non-political murders happen to hold an ideology. Its almost like that was done to pad statistics with fake data
The third one definitely had a political motive, that's actual terrorism. Its listed as "Right Wing (Anti-Government)". Something seems off about it though. Is it the part where he's a member of the Moorish temple, a radical Black Lives Matter motivated killing that is affiliated 100% with the political left and is a fringe left-wing group by all metrics of association, and despite that its being lumped in with 'white supremacists' who have the exact diametrically opposed views? Weird, that can't be it.
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Sep 13 2025 12:26am
>tfw finally become a white supremacist

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And when you claim 65% of domestic terrorism in the US is radical right wing terrorism, you're basing this off numbers that count left-wing terrorism as right-wing terrorism, and count non-political violence regardless of motive like domestic assaults, love triangles, drug dealing, gangs, etc.
To give some random examples you just listed as radical right-wing terrorism, before you deny that's the basis of your claim, I'm clicking the ADL's map at random. Just looking at murders.



Hmm weird.
The first two have no political motive, they've just been listed because the people who committed non-political murders happen to hold an ideology. Its almost like that was done to pad statistics with fake data
The third one definitely had a political motive, that's actual terrorism. Its listed as "Right Wing (Anti-Government)". Something seems off about it though. Is it the part where he's a member of the Moorish temple, a radical Black Lives Matter motivated killing that is affiliated 100% with the political left and is a fringe left-wing group by all metrics of association, and despite that its being lumped in with 'white supremacists' who have the exact diametrically opposed views? Weird, that can't be it.


you mislead people on this forum on a daily basis by claiming that ambiguous crimes are "clearly" leftwing to further your violent narrative. i'm not saying that statistics should be manipulated to make either side look better or worse, but you are a massive hypocrite in that regard
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Sep 13 2025 12:29am
i've said this in the past, on other topics where a killing or mass killing occurred but, we as not prone to violence people, who live normal lives can only speculate as to what would drive someone to the point of thinking killing is needed, and that goes for literally any ideology

i personally think that the motivations of any killer are in some way inherently apolitical and more caused by violence in media triggering their thoughts.

could this kid have been radicalized by the left? absolutely, we simply do not have enough evidence, the bullet casings could literally be red herrings, or they could indicate his actual views

regardless of the why that he decided to go thru with this, the very clear undertone of gun violence will never cease to happen until we as a nation, as a world even, try to combat the real issue(which in my opinion is compounding of both ample access to guns, which this kid had! and mental health awareness which this kid obviously lacked)


propaganda works, if you constantly call someone a nazi, fascist, etc people will be more inclined to believe it and if you continuously tell it to the wrong person they will think they are justified in murder.

it's not just the bullet casings though, his parents said he had become more political in recent years and lashed out at kirk at family dinners. I don't think it's reasonable to call this "apolitical"

you cannot come to undeniable proof as it would require mind-reading abilities, but the current evidence would not support the conclusion he is a "groyper" or anything like others in this thread are saying, it would align best with that he thought charlie kirk was a hate-spreading fascist and deserved to die which is exactly what many left-wing outlets have spread over the years about republicans.

the real issue of hate isn't the access to weapons, it's what comes from a man's heart. hate encroached at his door, and he let it have its way with him - you have to rule over it.

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Sep 13 2025 12:33am
Oh, MY BAD. He spent a couple years at Dixie Technical College... Sure hope he wasn't radicalized there to commit MAGA on MAGA crime.


It is very obvious he was turned radical left.
But care to make a wager on it since you insist it isn't?
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Sep 13 2025 12:34am
you mislead people on this forum on a daily basis by claiming that ambiguous crimes are "clearly" leftwing to further your violent narrative. i'm not saying that statistics should be manipulated to make either side look better or worse, but you are a massive hypocrite in that regard


I keep a running thread documenting it where I specifically weed out crimes that didn't have a political motive and explain that. In fact I've given that same speech so many times on PARD its like you're walking up to Charlie Kirk's tent asking him why he supports outlawing gay sex
Go ahead, look at the list I keep updating, find a single on you believe had no political motive;

  • Tesla firebombing attack in Las Vegas
  • Tesla arson attack by transgender in Kansas City
  • Tesla shooting attack in Oregon
  • Tesla firebombing failed attack in Austin
  • Tesla firebombing attack by transgender in New Mexico
  • Tesla elderly driver run off road and assaulted in Arizona
  • Tesla serial vandalism by public employee in MN, set free by Mary Moriarty
  • Tesla firebombing attack in Mesa
  • Ziz transgender cult murder of a border patrol officer
  • Ziz cult attempted mass shooting
  • Ziz cult murder of witness and family members
  • Attempted assassination of Trump #1
  • Attempted assassination of Trump #2
  • Attempted assassination of Hegseth / any republican
  • Islamist truck ramming attack in New Orleans
  • Shooting of a Jewish guy in Chicago by an Islamist
  • Assassination of UnitedHealth CEO by far-left attacker
  • Felony assault by transgender attacker against TPUSA tabler
  • Firebombing attack on GOP headquarters in Albuquerque
  • Suicide bombing attack on IVF clinic by far-left anti-natalist redditor
  • Assassination of two israeli diplomats by far-left socialist/communist
  • Flamethrower and firebombing attacking on israeli march in boulder, 1 killed 16 injured
  • Muslim arrested in attempt attempted mass shooting of jewish kids in dearborn
  • Low level riots in Minneapolis by mob obstructing federal agents
  • Larger riots, looting and arson by mob attacking federal agents in LA
  • Serial arson that destroy vehicles and shut down Waymo in LA
  • Murder of a bystander by two Antifa/Militia gunmen at No Kings rally in Salt Lake City
  • Mass stabbing attack on police by anti-cop black militant at the Manhattan courthouse in NYC
  • Attempted IED bombing and road spiking by transgender Antifa at No Kings rally in Portland
  • Firebombing attack by Antifa/Pro-Hamas militant that destroyed 11 NYPD vehicles
  • Two more attempted firebombings in Williamsburg and Columbia University by same guy
  • Attempted pipebomb attack on police by Texas militant driving to LA, thwarted
  • Sword and Knife attack by transgender antifa against ICE during riot in Portland on Jun 24
  • Antifa ambush shooting at ICE in Alvarado. One officer shot, 12 terrorists charged, including 3 trans, +2 more conspirators assisting, one gunman caught after manhunt.
  • Ambush shooting against Border Patrol in McAllen. Three officers shot, terrorist killed.
  • Attempting shooting of ICE officers in Camarillo by gunman among protesters.
  • Attempted firebombing attack on GOP headquarters in Dickinson Michigan, transgender attacker arrested.
  • Arson attack on drone manufacturing plant in Hood River by Antifa, at least, claimed/attempted
  • Attempted murder of a veteran by a militant leftist in King County WA, who had previously committed a car ramming attack on republicans in 2020
  • Stalking charges against a militant leftist who made multiple death threats against the widow of the assassinated UnitedHealth CEO
  • White powder terrorism mail to ICE facilities in NYC (boric acid claiming to be anthrax)
  • Mass shooting attacking at a christian school by a militant transgender gunman in Minneapolis, 2 children killed 18 injured and gunman dead
  • Murder of a bystander by a militant transgender activist who was spraying graffiti in Boston
  • Woman in lexus arrested trying to disrupt ICE arrest and drive into officers in Maine
  • Charlie Kirk assassinated by an Antifa sniper in Utah.


If its helpful, the ones with the most nebulous motives were the Zizians killing family members and landlords, but they certainly articulated political motives for it, they were just wackadoodle reasons.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Sep 13 2025 12:35am
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propaganda works, if you constantly call someone a nazi, fascist, etc people will be more inclined to believe it and if you continuously tell it to the wrong person they will think they are justified in murder.

it's not just the bullet casings though, his parents said he had become more political in recent years and lashed out at kirk at family dinners. I don't think it's reasonable to call this "apolitical"

you cannot come to undeniable proof as it would require mind-reading abilities, but the current evidence would not support the conclusion he is a "groyper" or anything like others in this thread are saying, it would align best with that he thought charlie kirk was a hate-spreading fascist and deserved to die which is exactly what many left-wing outlets have spread over the years about republicans.

the real issue of hate isn't the access to weapons, it's what comes from a man's heart. hate encroached at his door, and he let it have its way with him - you have to rule over it.
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i keep forgetting you used a flaws lens of religion in the way you see things

it is UNREASONABLE to claim this is political WITH THE CURRENT EVIDENCE contradicting itself(weird things he put on the ammo casing, contradicting information from family claiming he was of similar political viewpoint to them**((which btw we can easily doubt the validity of these claims)))

charlie kirk was a hate spreading "borderline" fascist who openly supported policy change that can be considered literal fascism, did he deserve to die for it? probably not. but to claim he didn't have a significant hand in his own undoing is just so silly

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