Quote (YeeHaw @ 7 Oct 2023 16:53)

Sooo it is finally time for Israel to fucking wipe Hamas off the face of the planet altogether?

Quote (YeeHaw @ Oct 7 2023 09:53am)

Sooo it is finally time for Israel to fucking wipe Hamas off the face of the planet altogether?

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 7 2023 05:29pm)

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Oct 2023 23:05)

There are 2 million people in the Gaza Strip, all of whom are effectively 'Hamas'. Where do they all go?
They can't have their own country, they certainly can't be Israelis. Egypt sure doesn't want them

We just saw two huge population displacements in the past couple years, all the western Ukrainians fleeing their country for Europe (mostly Poland) and the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh being completely evacuated to Armenia. In both cases, they had allies willing to take them in, like Syrians fleeing to Turkey- however grudgingly. But that doesn't exist for Gazans.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 7 2023 04:48pm)

I'm not sure your numbers are representing humanitary assistance, like there are different kinds of assistances, sometimes it's cooperations, cultural... etc..
Btw cultural... To vouch the palestinian culture, existence ?

Imho if you completely cut humanitary assistance in Palestine this will only push for more violences and the far-right Israeli government will push for even more asymetric responses.



<the best people> to still believe this guy ?

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 7 2023 05:05pm)

There are 2 million people in the Gaza Strip, all of whom are effectively 'Hamas'. Where do they all go?
They can't have their own country, they certainly can't be Israelis. Egypt sure doesn't want them

We just saw two huge population displacements in the past couple years, all the western Ukrainians fleeing their country for Europe (mostly Poland) and the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh being completely evacuated to Armenia. In both cases, they had allies willing to take them in, like Syrians fleeing to Turkey- however grudgingly. But that doesn't exist for Gazans.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 7 2023 05:14pm)

They will displace and probably get rid as many Palestine and in the worst case scenario " kill " as many Palestine as possible and force them to flee that area into the open arms of EU.
The Pepsing of woman and children young and old will not be out of bounds since Hamas is doing exactly that to the Jews at the moment.

All atrocities done by Israel and the Palestine will probably be covered up sooner or later.
I can see at least half a million Palestine disappear by the end of this and 95% and above of Palestine displace to EU.

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First thoughts on the ongoing Hamas attack against Israel:

1. Massive Israeli intelligence failure. The last time Israel was blind sided this badly was the '73 war. Though we should note Israel came out on top in that conflict 50 years ago.

2. The scope of this infiltration attack indicates a huge level of planning and preparation spanning months or years. Which underscores point #1.

3. The level of brutality already involved; confirmed executions of Israeli soldiers and civilians, parading the bodies of slain IDF personnel (including 1 female soldier), indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians, etc will help set the tone for what follows.

4. Israeli declaration of war by the PM gives some indication of what we can expect from Israel by way of response. Also indicates the seriousness with which the government regards this attack/invasion. As does the IDF moving to a war footing and immediately recalling reserves.

5. Expect a significant degree of rally around the flag following this. Internal disputes will be put on the back burner for the time being. This is good news for Bibi.

6. The Israeli left's political influence will likely take a serious beating given their long standing conciliatory (by comparison) stance towards the Palestinians. Again, good news for the current center-right governing coalition.

7. Given the widespread support for the Palestinians being voiced by various Arab governments in the region - the progress of the Abraham Accords has suffered significant damage. How much remains to be seen.

8. I expect a significant Israeli response. Whatever it looks like, it will open with the air campaign we're already seeing the beginnings of. I currently regard future ground operations into Gaza by the IDF as highly likely.

9. While Iran supports numerous proxies & militias in the region, including Hamas & Hezbollah, and has openly praised this attack, it's not yet clear how involved Tehran is prepared to be. Some of their official rhetoric has been bellicose. What Hezbollah chooses to do in over the next few days or weeks may provide insight.

10. Which way Hezbollah jumps will have a major impact. Their involvement would create a two front problem for Israel and bring a significant number of additional enemy forces into the fight.

11. Several Arab nations, including Egypt, have made what could be construed as threats against Israel if the IDF were to launch punitive operations against Gaza in ways they deem disproportionate. Whether this is merely rhetoric or a genuine warning remains to be seen. From some nations, like Egypt, it's a threat Israel must take seriously.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 7 Oct 2023 23:32)

they are using these funds to massacre jews, while the regular people dont get shit

and how can there possibly be more violence, lmao



and for good reason, the neighbor countries only want these people as an ally to fight israel

they will immediately say NOPE and bounce before taking them in



what could possibly go wrong? ^_^

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Oct 2023 23:38)

Also hey a preemptive warning for everyone on PARD
There are lots of videos of of massacred Israelis in bloodbaths, Palestinians taking Israeli women captive, the one making its rounds with Palestinians driving around with the corpse of a woman they stripped- if you post them on PARD or link to a site with them embedded (even major news) the mods will remove your post and possibly 10% you, so make an effort to avoid it. That said, you can describe what happened in Sderot and the first evidence we've seen

new footage in the past hour or so is coming out from the highway outside Sderot showing dozens of vehicles shot up and bodies strewn across the streets, looks like they killed all the civilians they didn't take hostage on the main roads and there's got to be dozens dead there along, not including everyone in the town that was sacked