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Feb 11 2023 03:37am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 11 Feb 2023 05:49)
Agree with this, at this point she is just defending herself.
Trans are the new vegans, everyone must conform or else.


or else what? conform how? the joke about vegans is that they try to convert everyone else to their chosen lifestyle - have trans peope ever told you to be trans, or that not being trans hurts the planet?! i highly doubt that. i'm pretty sure all they want is not to be discriminated against, which i don't think is an unreasonable position at all.

imo pushing back against legislation aimed to make life easier for trans people is not just "defending yourself" against the alleged trans people and allies saying mean things to her on twitter, but actively trying to hurt the majority of them who just want society not to to discriminate against them.

i mean, i can certaily see how SHE thinks she's just defending herself, given the fact that she apparently has an incredibly fragile ego, considering how long she has been in the public eye, how filthy rich she is, and how little she really SHOULD care - but looking at it from the outside, i would not subscribe to that description. her anti trans activism is more than merely standing up to some fringe online bullies - it's textbook bigotry, she's using her massive platform to support discrimination.

just out of interest: did you read her books, watch the movies? do you like her work?
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Feb 11 2023 03:44am
Quote (fender @ Feb 11 2023 10:37am)
or else what? conform how? the joke about vegans is that they try to convert everyone else to their chosen lifestyle - have trans peope ever told you to be trans, or that not being trans hurts the planet?! i highly doubt that.


There is a whole campaign, including primary school, to indoctrinate childrens with your shitty ideology. nice try mr Heinrich Von Goebbels but no.

Quote (fender @ Feb 11 2023 10:37am)
imo pushing back against legislation aimed to make life easier for trans people is not just "defending yourself" against the alleged trans people and allies saying mean things to her on twitter, but actively trying to hurt the majority of them who just want society not to to discriminate against them.


Maybe if they weren't looking on twitter first of all.
Twitter is literally the reflect of zero thinking. 240 characters.
No thinking process can be made with this number to begin with. Reducing it to the purest bigotry form of expression : communautarism.

Again, there is no surprise that the zero level of education that came out of this indoctrination is addicted to twitter lmao. If women aren't a social class then I let you imagine what trans are : nothing.



Quote (fender @ Feb 11 2023 10:37am)
i mean, i can certaily see how SHE thinks she's just defending herself, given the fact that she apparently has an incredibly fragile ego, considering how long she has been in the public eye, how filthy rich she is, and how little she really SHOULD care - but looking at it from the outside, i would not subscribe to that description. her anti trans activism is more than merely standing up to some fringe online bullies - it's textbook bigotry, she's using her massive platform to support discrimination.

just out of interest: did you read her books, watch the movies? do you like her work?


Oh my poor little child, stop with the suspense please, what did she said that could be considered transphobic ?

This post was edited by Melatonina on Feb 11 2023 03:45am
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Feb 11 2023 09:42am
it is very odd some of rowlings biggest detractors are the pale pasty privileged lefty males who got generational wealth handed to them based on the tremendous efforts of a formerly abused woman single parent who was basically living at the poverty line while working. at the end of the day its mostly leftist pale males angry at a woman for having positive views on women’s rights.

it really is a sickness

https://fortune.com/2023/02/08/hogwarts-legacy-harry-potter-video-game-boycott-rowling-transphobia-warner-discovery-avalanche/amp/

case in point. ‘genocide simulation’ really? lmfao
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Feb 11 2023 10:14am
Quote (blahaj @ Feb 10 2023 11:43pm)
did you find this funny?


Haven't seen it yet but griffy has always been funny
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Feb 11 2023 10:40am
Quote (excellence @ Feb 11 2023 04:42pm)
it is very odd some of rowlings biggest detractors are the pale pasty privileged lefty males who got generational wealth handed to them based on the tremendous efforts of a formerly abused woman single parent who was basically living at the poverty line while working. at the end of the day its mostly leftist pale males angry at a woman for having positive views on women’s rights.

it really is a sickness

https://fortune.com/2023/02/08/hogwarts-legacy-harry-potter-video-game-boycott-rowling-transphobia-warner-discovery-avalanche/amp/

case in point. ‘genocide simulation’ really? lmfao


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I think we just put Heinrich Von 5-0bbels into sleep mode m8, good job!

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Feb 11 2023 11:14am
Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 11 2023 10:14am)
Haven't seen it yet but griffy has always been funny


i watched it, created a fake argument to try and logically breakdown

its easy to do that when you create the badguy in your head
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Feb 11 2023 11:46pm
Quote (fender @ Feb 11 2023 08:37pm)
or else what? conform how? the joke about vegans is that they try to convert everyone else to their chosen lifestyle - have trans peope ever told you to be trans, or that not being trans hurts the planet?! i highly doubt that. i'm pretty sure all they want is not to be discriminated against, which i don't think is an unreasonable position at all.

imo pushing back against legislation aimed to make life easier for trans people is not just "defending yourself" against the alleged trans people and allies saying mean things to her on twitter, but actively trying to hurt the majority of them who just want society not to to discriminate against them.

i mean, i can certaily see how SHE thinks she's just defending herself, given the fact that she apparently has an incredibly fragile ego, considering how long she has been in the public eye, how filthy rich she is, and how little she really SHOULD care - but looking at it from the outside, i would not subscribe to that description. her anti trans activism is more than merely standing up to some fringe online bullies - it's textbook bigotry, she's using her massive platform to support discrimination.

just out of interest: did you read her books, watch the movies? do you like her work?


What they want is complete blanket immunity from all criticism and commentary, which not one single other group on the planet gets..
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Feb 12 2023 01:13am
You're kidding yourself if you think there isn't another group which has complete blanket immunity from all criticism and commentary.
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Feb 12 2023 01:14am
Quote (tn5421 @ Feb 12 2023 08:13am)
You're kidding yourself if you think there isn't another group which has complete blanket immunity from all criticism and commentary.


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Feb 12 2023 03:54am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 12 Feb 2023 06:46)
What they want is complete blanket immunity from all criticism and commentary, which not one single other group on the planet gets..


i don't think that's true at all tbh. i don't have the impression the trans community as a whole is just completely opposed to justified, legitimate criticism, let alone commentary - quite the opposite: i think they WANT the general public to be aware of / talk about / normalise their existence.

could you name an example of reasonable criticism that trans people simply want to be "immune" against? maybe i'm missing something, but i genuinely can't think of one. the way i see it is that they are mainly opposed to broad generalisations based on fringe or completely made up incidents, or discriminatory legislation / the opposition to more inclusive legislation, based on purely hypothetical and fabricated fears.

are there trans activists and allies who are obnoxious, shrill, unreasonable, entitled, overly aggressive... especially in the eyes of those who never had to fight for basic human rights, and who simply don't care? of course, i don't think anyone would deny that. that doesn't mean they are representative of the group as a whole though.

it has always been like that btw - with the suffragette movement, the civil rights movement, native rights movements in virtually every colonised country... basically every time a minority fought for recognition and equality, you have those loud individuals - just like you always have people that oppose them on principle and those that act like they personally have nothing against said group, but they just can't support them because some of them are simply assholes...

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