it wasn't a murder, just an accident

makes me think of drunk driving and a crash resulting in death. the sentences are normally reduced heavily. Im no law expert but I agree with people making mistakes and receiving adjusted sentences.

in this case, if it could be proven that the accused had murder on his mind when he hit the streets that night or was aware of the person inside before setting the fire, then criminal intent shifts from mischeif and destruction of property to murder and he should sentenced accordingly. taking into account his criminal history as well

When gaining oil is involved?

Why are you gaslighting us Bogie? They declared political violence as legitimate discourse.

Kevin McCarthy is in for a rude awakening tho. See him run from that reporter asking about it? That is because Mitch McConnell is about to wear Donald Trump as a hand puppet. McConnell is now fucking Trump with lawyers he tricked him into nominating which have gone against him on Jan 6th coup attempt, his tax documents, election results while scoring minor wins for campaign finance, religious rights, guns, and abortion. Two McConnell Republicans are going to expose Trump in the J6 committee by the time it is over. This is why he didn't vote for impeachment at the impeachment trial but said he was guilty and would pay. He is going to take down Trump hard without losing support from or incriminating his caucus.

Kevin McCarthy is going to be in a pretty uncomfortable position as one of the main gaslighters about the Jan 6th beerhall putsch.

They absolutely do not. It has been ANTIFA//FBI
Tourism. And now political discourse They want anything but actual facts. Looks like Mitch is the first rat jumping ship

Well, he lives here. It's local news for us, like this:

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/bus-driver-shot-in-north-minneapolis-with-3-children-aboard/

george the crackhead floyd's ghost is angry.

This is a legal and/or philosophical question which is popping up time and time again: at which point does a case of negligent manslaughter become so egregious that it can no longer be discounted as negligence and should be prosecuted as intentional or premeditated?
Reminds me of a recent example where dudes were street racing through Berlin at 150 mph, hit and killed a pedestrian and were then sentenced for third-degree murder, rather than manslaughter, in a widely discussed ruling. The judge argued that engaging in this kind of activity invariably and intentionally puts the life of others at risk.

It's the same argument in this case right here: setting a mixed commercial-residential building on fire without checking that it's empty means that the defendant had consciously accepted the deadly risk of his arson, so that his action can no longer be excused by negligence.
I have to agree, however, that:

third degree murder seems more reasonable according to my layman gut feeling than first degree.




Anyway, I'm of course with Goom on the actual issue: partisan justice, in which prosecutors treats cases differently based on the partisan motivation of a crime, is extremely dangerous and unacceptable. A colorblind judiciary is extremely important for a functioning society, no matter if we're talking about black/white or red/blue.

McConnell and the GOP should not open up the can or worms that is Jan 6th though. When you're trying to claim the moral high-ground on an issue, bringing up a similar issue on which you held the moral low-ground is not helping your case, to put it mildly.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 9 2022 08:09pm

At what point does posting your local news garbage here just turn pard into nextdoor?

Sometimes, local developments are harbingers for and representative of larger societal trends or developments and have national relevance in this capacity. Minneapolis indeed seems like ground zero for the impact and pitfalls of the progressive criminal justice movement.