Considering thesnipa's lack of particular allegiance with either the right or left wing, at this point PaRD is unanimously worried about who he's going to have for dinner tomorrow.

Dude's on a roll.

I am not implying that Palestine agrees, i imply the opposite.
this was about correlating the UAE deal to the moving of the Israel embassy to Jerusalem.

this move gave recognition to "Jerusalem" specifically. again, that area was under claim by both Israel/Palestine.
even if "Palestine" doesn't recognize it, the USA recognizing it adds a lot of credibility to the claim when it comes world view.
in short, the UAE can now recognize Jerusalem as belonging to Israel. since Israel has been claiming it as their capital for 30 years, it seems like an important building block to me.

I really dont think that the Jerusalem question played a large role in this. I think it mostly boils down to long-term geostrategic trends:

Many countries of the Arab world have gotten sick and tired of the Palestinians. They never cared about the Palestinians anyway, they just used them as a justification for their hatred of Israel. But over the past decades, they've increasingly come to terms with the existence of Israel. Furthermore, the continuing explosive population growth of the Palestinians means that any solution of the ME conflict which involves resettlement of Palestinians in neighboring Arab countries would become a problem for them. They want Israel to keep herding cats rather than having to deal with them themselves.

And then there is the expansion of the sphere of influence of Iran and its Shiite proxies. There is Erdogan's increasingly interventionist, pro-Muslim Brotherhood policies which have turned Turkey from an ally into an adversary (of both Israel and the Gulf Monarchies). And there are Al Qaeda, ISIS and similar islamistic terror groups which are a threat to the power and the legitimacy of the Gulf Monarchies.

Simply put, the geostrategic interests of Israel and the Gulf Monarchies have increasingly converged in recent years while the things driving a wedge between them have lost importance. The rapprochement between these sides is the logical next step of this development, and was probably only a matter of time anyway.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 14 2020 04:01pm

How is this a win for trump? What did he do to help move this ahead?

They used the white house to organize the meetings.

Thats all I've gotten so far

Obama set this up by literally setting the middle east on fire under his presidency. Toppling dictators and starting civil wars. Supporting Iranian terrorism all throughout the middle east.

Trump set the stage for peace by destroying ISIS and crippling Iran's war capacity with sanctions.

Trump Tower was used in 2016. See post #19. These Arab states have been working on this since 2015.

Trump supporters in this thread have made a snarky talking point along the lines of "yeah yeah, for you liberals, it's probably Obama who deserves ""credit"" for this outcome, not Trump /s".

Funnily enough, this is probably unironically true. Obama's flip-flopping on Syria and his Iran deal have been such horrendous, abject failures that the entire Middle East got destabilized, leaving Israel and the Gulf Monarchies essentially no other choice than to form some sort of alliance against an emboldened Iran and an Erdogan running wild. See my post above.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 14 2020 08:00pm

give him another peace prize then

I don't give credit to Obama. The Gulf states and Israel saw an opportunity with Trump to put the screws to Iran, and they ran with it. Hell, by the time of the Red Sea yacht meeting between Arab state leaders, Trump had already made campaign promises regarding moving the embassy to Jerusalem and renegotiating (or outright rescinding) the Iran nuclear deal. It was an opportunity for them, and they seized it. The UAE-Israel peace deal is the direct result of that.