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Jan 16 2019 11:18am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 16 2019 05:04pm)
That's funny he never used the word amendment in any of his speech. Just an appeal to emotion and ofignoring the law.


Losers asseeeeeeeeemble. *ronburgandy.gif

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Jan 16 2019 11:22am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 16 2019 11:04am)
That's funny he never used the word amendment in any of his speech. Just an appeal to emotion and of ignoring the law.


he also never said it should be abolished, but you still made a thread on the emotion it caused inside of you.

did you hit your head as a child and damage the part of the brain that processes ironic blatant hypocrisy? if yes lmk and ill stop being an ableist, i'd hate to punch down.
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Jan 16 2019 11:23am
Beto Cortez 2024.
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Jan 16 2019 11:27am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 16 2019 10:04am)
That's funny he never used the word amendment in any of his speech. Just an appeal to emotion and of ignoring the law.


He must be dogwhistling of course

that moderate democrat that hangs out with Clinton and toned his rhetoric way down pissing off the left

letting extremists know through his whistle that he's gonna burn it all

it's definitely not a typical politician non answer answer that is vague and terrified of being criticized by left center and right as a guy that wants to be elected

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Jan 16 2019 11:27am
Aside from the constitution point, oh look another hawk that thinks we are an empire and must maintain global military bases at the expense of the taxpayer. Remember when the Democrats were antiwar, anti military spending? I 'member.
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just to head off whatever moronic thing you're brewing up(endless), apply occam's razor. is it easier to amend the constitution or get rid of it?

it's 100x easier to amend, and yet it's incredibly difficult to amend. it's in all likelihood impossible to remove it, you'd end up making 50 countries overnight that form smaller nations. if we want to go down the sci fi narrative route...

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Aside from the constitution point, oh look another hawk that thinks we are an empire and must maintain global military bases at the expense of the taxpayer. Remember when the Democrats were antiwar, anti military spending? I 'member.


which part of his statement is pro-foreign engagements?

he's stating the fact that the US constitution was written before we had property in the form of embassies in all nations on all continents.

please please please please please just leave the "well he didn't say it but what he meant was" dogwhistle shit to morons like fendy

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just to head off whatever moronic thing you're brewing up(endless), apply occam's razor. is it easier to amend the constitution or get rid of it?

it's 100x easier to amend, and yet it's incredibly difficult to amend. it's in all likelihood impossible to remove it, you'd end up making 50 countries overnight that form smaller nations. if we want to go down the sci fi narrative route...



which part of his statement is pro-foreign engagements?

he's stating the fact that the US constitution was written before we had property in the form of embassies in all nations on all continents.

please please please please please just leave the "well he didn't say it but what he meant was" dogwhistle shit to morons like fendy


'Security agreement' 'trading relationships'

Those are words that connotate our global military presence is positive. If you have some evidence that he wants to reduce military spending or roll back on being the world policeman, by all means, change my mind man.
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Jan 16 2019 11:40am
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'Security agreement' 'trading relationships'

Those are words that connotate our global military presence is positive. If you have some evidence that he wants to reduce military spending or roll back on being the world policeman, by all means, change my mind man.


i run into this issue regularly on PARD when i try to provide a perspective that isn't mine or context of reality, it gets taken for support every time.

MAYBE Beto is a globalist hawk, or maybe he's simply looking at reality. We have a country that is in many ways arguably outside the scope of the constitution. we have skirted that by accepting property from countries and just applying our own constitution to the square block of w/e the embassy sits on. but that's far from a perfect system.

to close, as i know you're focused on Chinese intellectual property theft, out constitution gives us zero power to do anything directly with foreign trade partners like China. there are only 3 solutions, annex china, indirectly steer them in the right direction through trade levies, or both nations become partially subservient to a board like the UN that oversees such matters that can apply direct penalties.

i dont need evidence because im not making a biased claim based on 2 small phrases from a single part of a single interview in text form, fender.

Quote (IceMage @ Jan 16 2019 11:43am)
Supporting NATO and other military partnerships around the world =/= supporting costly foreign interventions and an inflated defense budget.


you're just not a dog man, u can't hear the whistle.....

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Aside from the constitution point, oh look another hawk that thinks we are an empire and must maintain global military bases at the expense of the taxpayer. Remember when the Democrats were antiwar, anti military spending? I 'member.


Supporting NATO and other military partnerships around the world =/= supporting costly foreign interventions and an inflated defense budget.
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Jan 16 2019 11:52am
Defense spending is five times less than welfare spending in the US gov.
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